New or old Dev?

[ian26uk]

Ok first the reason for this post.
I was reading the reviews and took special note on how the Dev was seemingly being, how shall I put it, negative towards negative review.
I also noted the "It's a new Dev speech" so I also read the pinned post on that subject.

He clearly admits it was HE who started this game in 2015 and he is now the new Dev.

So in 2015 he was in charge......To many of the negative reviews he says the game was not good at the start but its a new studio now..Not true he was there at the start and in charge now.

Looking at the records for both companies it seems the old studio:
Signal Studios
Slater Ave, Kirkland, WA 98033, US
is really close to the "new Dev":
Slater Ave NE, Kirkland, WA 98033

Seems to me it's NOT a new Dev team its the same one and using the old "New studio taking over" to generate more sales.

[Kraft51]

wow man this must be a full time career for you. all you do is single out indie devs and EA titles and harass them about being in EA. this is the fifth forum i've seen you on spouting this same type of drivel. the best part is that you've purchased each and every one of these titles voluntarily, so that raises a few flags for me. especially since you're out to ruin indie devs for no legitimate reason.

[ian26uk]

Kraft51 původně napsal:

wow man this must be a full time career for you. all you do is single out indie devs and EA titles and harass them about being in EA. this is the fifth forum i've seen you on spouting this same type of drivel. the best part is that you've purchased each and every one of these titles voluntarily, so that raises a few flags for me. especially since you're out to ruin indie devs for no legitimate reason.

Funny because anyone with half a brain cell on active duty would notice I have NOT bought any of those games.
First ask the question then you will get an answer don't assume.
This is also the 5+ time you have commented about what I write with no question, no defence, no argument against what I write.
The only thing you do is say how I am "picking on EA games". If you are actually reading what I write you would see I said NOTHING about the quality of the game nor did I say anything negative about the game.
If you think asking a question is negative or harassing you must have had a really bad time in school.

[TrompeL'Oeil]

As far as I can tell, this is the only question in your op:

ian26uk původně napsal:

New or old Dev?

After trying to come up some kind of conspiracy theory, you then end your post by answering your own question:

ian26uk původně napsal:

Seems to me it's NOT a new Dev team its the same one and using the old "New studio taking over" to generate more sales.

In your next post, you say:

ian26uk původně napsal:

If you think asking a question is negative or harassing you must have had a really bad time in school.

Asking an honest question is not a negative thing and certainly not harassment. Disguising your narrative in the form of questions can be seen as being negative, even seen as harassment if it is being done on multiple occasions.

You are, oh "how shall I say?", insinuating (implying?, inferring?,... can never be too careful and let you scream "I NEVER INSINUATED ANYTHING...") and not really questioning.

BTW, what's the point of your post anyway? (Does this question qualify me to fit in the category of people with less than "half a brain cell on active duty"?)

Somehow you just rub me the wrong way. Do you think I am allowed to say this is a fact? Reading your post, I am reminded of the words then US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson used to describe POTUS and I apply them to you.

[Eriandhor]

what is the whole point of this post? yes chris was the lead desing in signal studios and he went after a year with them. now he took over the game with one more person (not sure if he was in signal too) and now they both program and improve what signal studios left for them and they're doing an amazing job. in a way they are new devs as they werent involved with savage lands after the Unity5 update.
and again .... what was the point of this post? were you bored and had nothing else to do?

[ian26uk]

LinkStrife původně napsal:

As far as I can tell, this is the only question in your op:

ian26uk původně napsal:

New or old Dev?

Hmm yes did I say I asked multiple questions?????

LinkStrife původně napsal:

After trying to come up some kind of conspiracy theory, you then end your post by answering your own question:

Conspiracy theory?
A. That is a term invented by the CIA in order to discredit information and B. Nothing in my comment fits that definition anyway(Go look it up).

LinkStrife původně napsal:

Asking an honest question is not a negative thing and certainly not harassment. Disguising your narrative in the form of questions can be seen as being negative, even seen as harassment if it is being done on multiple occasions.

Thank you for your opinion on what is and is not a question but here is a hint if there is a ? and the end of the writing............It's a question.

LinkStrife původně napsal:

You are, oh "how shall I say?", insinuating (implying?, inferring?,... can never be too careful and let you scream "I NEVER INSINUATED ANYTHING...") and not really questioning.

So you wanted to be ...what? more rude? use a different words for how the Dev responds to reviews?
Where is your problem with me attempting to say "The dev was a prick" but in a nicer way?


Do I really have to explain how things work? I guess so.....
The Question is for people to write THEIR opinion in the comments(I thought people knew how this worked)I then put MY opinion to the question with the reasons WHY I think my opinion is correct.
I can not believe I actually have to explain to two people how this actually works do you think you put a subject matter into the title of the post then write NOTHING in the description?

So if I made a post called "Base building good or bad?" you would then expect NOTHING in the description about base building and why the OP thinks it is good/bad? you would expect them to write what exactly?

So YES I asked the question "New or Old dev?) and then gave MY reason why I think it's not a new dev.

[ian26uk]

Eriandhor původně napsal:

what is the whole point of this post? yes chris was the lead desing in signal studios and he went after a year with them. now he took over the game with one more person (not sure if he was in signal too) and now they both program and improve what signal studios left for them and they're doing an amazing job. in a way they are new devs as they werent involved with savage lands after the Unity5 update.
and again .... what was the point of this post? were you bored and had nothing else to do?

The point of this post is two fold. One, So people like you did can write if they think it's the same Dev team or not and two to give people a little bit more information on the POSSIBILITY that this is not and I left out the part where Signal studios still has the game up on their web page.

As for am I bored and nothing to do.....You do know COVID is a thing right? or is that a conspiracy theory too?

[TrompeL'Oeil]

ian26uk původně napsal:

As for am I bored and nothing to do.....You do know COVID is a thing right? or is that a conspiracy theory too?

So, you did it because of the virus... Have you read Albert Camus' L'Étranger (didn't think so)? In the story, the protagonist killed someone because of the Sun (yes, he says the Sun made him do it). The philosophy behind this is called Absurdism.

In a different thread, I remember seeing you berating someone for not properly formatting their post, making it confusing for someone reading it to easily know who said what. Would you be so kind (asking politely... watch and learn) as to format your previous post (where you quote me) properly? I don't think it is too much to ask as you seem to have some time on your hands.

If you still have time on your hands (silly me, of course you do!), would you mind extrapolating on an expression you used? You told Eriandhor "people like you". Who are those people like him/us? What do they have in common? It is always too easy to generalize.

BTW, do you think the GREATNEW&OLD dev has anything to do with what's on Signal Studios' web page?

addendum:
You claim to have written your post to give your "reason why I think it's not a new dev". Seems to me the real reason was you "attempting to say "The dev was a prick" ".

[ian26uk]

LinkStrife původně napsal:

ian26uk původně napsal:

As for am I bored and nothing to do.....You do know COVID is a thing right? or is that a conspiracy theory too?

So, you did it because of the virus... Have you read Albert Camus' L'Étranger (didn't think so)? In the story, the protagonist killed someone because of the Sun (yes, he says the Sun made him do it). The philosophy behind this is called Absurdism.

In a different thread, I remember seeing you berating someone for not properly formatting their post, making it confusing for someone reading it to easily know who said what. Would you be so kind (asking politely... watch and learn) as to format your previous post (where you quote me) properly? I don't think it is too much to ask as you seem to have some time on your hands.

If you still have time on your hands (silly me, of course you do!), would you mind extrapolating on an expression you used? You told Eriandhor "people like you". Who are those people like him/us? What do they have in common? It is always too easy to generalize.

BTW, do you think the GREATNEW&OLD dev has anything to do with what's on Signal Studios' web page?

addendum:
You claim to have written your post to give your "reason why I think it's not a new dev". Seems to me the real reason was you "attempting to say "The dev was a prick" ".

Dude whats your problem?
You asked a question:
"what was the point of this post? were you bored and had nothing else to do?"
I answered.
Because you seem to be simple let me break down the answer and question for you..
You Question 1."what was the point of this post?"
Me Answer "The point of this post is two fold. One, So people like you did can write if they think it's the same Dev team or not and two to give people a little bit more information on the POSSIBILITY that this is not and I left out the part where Signal studios still has the game up on their web page."



Question part 2 YOU "were you bored and had nothing else to do?"
Answer me "You do know COVID is a thing right? or is that a conspiracy theory too?"

What part of those answers confused you???

[Maverick]

ian26uk původně napsal:

New or old Dev?

You went the long way around in your search for information about the developer of this game. The information is publicly available, visible on the exact same page you posted this thread, mere centimeters above your own post.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1694923613854143166/

[LastBastionStudios]

Let's distill this:

1. Yes, Euryidium worked at Signal and was the original developer/creator of Savage. (Everyone in the community knows this)
2. Yes, Euryidium left Signal in 2015 for a new gig. (Everyone in the community knows this)
3. Yes, Euryidium formed LBS. (Everyone in the community knows this)
4. Yes, in May 2018 LBS aquired the rights to Savage Lands. (Everyone in the community knows this)

In summary, the original creator moved on in 2015, then took the game back over in 2018 because they did not want to see it waste away and since 2018 has been working on it ever since.

Savage has seen 128 updates and 2100+ bug fixes and new content since LBS took it over.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1694923613854143166/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1640915206442322063/

So in 2015 he was in charge......To many of the negative reviews he says the game was not good at the start but its a new studio now..Not true he was there at the start and in charge now.

Lastly, a lot of negative reviews and few positive came during the period LBS/Euryidium was not around Jan 2016- April 2018. Just look at the Steam metrics ( note, the positive reviews were at there highest when Euryidium was at signal in 2015). The game needed a lot of work (Build 378). Once we took it over, the negative perception started to change due to all the work/updates. Our goal has always been to fix and improve everything that was broken so that players and new fans could enjoy the game. If you played build 378 and anything prior (other than legacy) you'll know exactly what we are talking about. =)

We think the community is pretty happy with the updates thus far. We fully acknowledge there are still areas of the game that need improvement and will continue down our path to do so. =) We could have easily released Savage in 2018 and called it a day, but we didn't as that would be a disservice to the players/fans/loyal community that love this game.

More stuff is in the works.

Stay Savage!

[Tarc Novar]

LastBastionStudios původně napsal:

Let's distill this:

1. Yes, Euryidium worked at Signal and was the original developer/creator of Savage. (Everyone in the community knows this)
2. Yes, Euryidium left Signal in 2015 for a new gig. (Everyone in the community knows this)
3. Yes, Euryidium formed LBS. (Everyone in the community knows this)
4. Yes, in May 2018 LBS aquired the rights to Savage Lands. (Everyone in the community knows this)

In summary, the original creator moved on in 2015, then took the game back over in 2018 because they did not want to see it waste away and since 2018 has been working on it ever since.

Savage has seen 128 updates and 2100+ bug fixes and new content since LBS took it over.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1694923613854143166/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1640915206442322063/

So in 2015 he was in charge......To many of the negative reviews he says the game was not good at the start but its a new studio now..Not true he was there at the start and in charge now.

Lastly, a lot of negative reviews and few positive came during the period LBS/Euryidium was not around Jan 2016- April 2018. Just look at the Steam metrics ( note, the positive reviews were at there highest when Euryidium was at signal in 2015). The game needed a lot of work (Build 378). Once we took it over, the negative perception started to change due to all the work/updates. Our goal has always been to fix and improve everything that was broken so that players and new fans could enjoy the game. If you played build 378 and anything prior (other than legacy) you'll know exactly what we are talking about. =)

We think the community is pretty happy with the updates thus far. We fully acknowledge there are still areas of the game that need improvement and will continue down our path to do so. =) We could have easily released Savage in 2018 and called it a day, but we didn't as that would be a disservice to the players/fans/loyal community that love this game.

More stuff is in the works.

Stay Savage!

You are awesome! Keep doing great things.

[TrompeL'Oeil]

ian26uk původně napsal:

What part of those answers confused you??? *snip*

You quote my post but you comment on Eriandhor's post... Who's the confused one? Me thinks you are the one.

The OP was not the innocent post you want it to be. You got busted for having a hidden agenda. Go play with yourself. (Okay, I know this last sentence might get me banned, but I still want to say it if it means getting rid of you. Bring your malevolence somewhere else.) Adios!

[ian26uk]

LinkStrife původně napsal:

You quote my post but you comment on Eriandhor's post... Who's the confused one? Me thinks you are the one.

I often confuse one arsehole for another since all arsehole look the same. Sorry, but never the less my comment was still aimed at your comment as you seemed confused. If I knew this was how you normally are I wouldn't have bothered my bad.

[ian26uk]

LastBastionStudios původně napsal:

Let's distill this:

1. Yes, Euryidium worked at Signal and was the original developer/creator of Savage. (Everyone in the community knows this)
2. Yes, Euryidium left Signal in 2015 for a new gig. (Everyone in the community knows this)
3. Yes, Euryidium formed LBS. (Everyone in the community knows this)
4. Yes, in May 2018 LBS aquired the rights to Savage Lands. (Everyone in the community knows this)

In summary, the original creator moved on in 2015, then took the game back over in 2018 because they did not want to see it waste away and since 2018 has been working on it ever since.

Savage has seen 128 updates and 2100+ bug fixes and new content since LBS took it over.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1694923613854143166/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1640915206442322063/

So in 2015 he was in charge......To many of the negative reviews he says the game was not good at the start but its a new studio now..Not true he was there at the start and in charge now.

Lastly, a lot of negative reviews and few positive came during the period LBS/Euryidium was not around Jan 2016- April 2018. Just look at the Steam metrics ( note, the positive reviews were at there highest when Euryidium was at signal in 2015). The game needed a lot of work (Build 378). Once we took it over, the negative perception started to change due to all the work/updates. Our goal has always been to fix and improve everything that was broken so that players and new fans could enjoy the game. If you played build 378 and anything prior (other than legacy) you'll know exactly what we are talking about. =)

We think the community is pretty happy with the updates thus far. We fully acknowledge there are still areas of the game that need improvement and will continue down our path to do so. =) We could have easily released Savage in 2018 and called it a day, but we didn't as that would be a disservice to the players/fans/loyal community that love this game.

More stuff is in the works.

Stay Savage!

Fine but you might want to edit all the websites that say Euryidium(Cant use real name) was still working on this game in 2016(Not that it matters).
TBH you could have just written:
No, Euryidium is not working or connected to Signal.

[LastBastionStudios]

ian26uk původně napsal:

LastBastionStudios původně napsal:

Let's distill this:

1. Yes, Euryidium worked at Signal and was the original developer/creator of Savage. (Everyone in the community knows this)
2. Yes, Euryidium left Signal in 2015 for a new gig. (Everyone in the community knows this)
3. Yes, Euryidium formed LBS. (Everyone in the community knows this)
4. Yes, in May 2018 LBS aquired the rights to Savage Lands. (Everyone in the community knows this)

In summary, the original creator moved on in 2015, then took the game back over in 2018 because they did not want to see it waste away and since 2018 has been working on it ever since.

Savage has seen 128 updates and 2100+ bug fixes and new content since LBS took it over.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1694923613854143166/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/307880/discussions/1/1640915206442322063/



Lastly, a lot of negative reviews and few positive came during the period LBS/Euryidium was not around Jan 2016- April 2018. Just look at the Steam metrics ( note, the positive reviews were at there highest when Euryidium was at signal in 2015). The game needed a lot of work (Build 378). Once we took it over, the negative perception started to change due to all the work/updates. Our goal has always been to fix and improve everything that was broken so that players and new fans could enjoy the game. If you played build 378 and anything prior (other than legacy) you'll know exactly what we are talking about. =)

We think the community is pretty happy with the updates thus far. We fully acknowledge there are still areas of the game that need improvement and will continue down our path to do so. =) We could have easily released Savage in 2018 and called it a day, but we didn't as that would be a disservice to the players/fans/loyal community that love this game.

More stuff is in the works.

Stay Savage!

Fine but you might want to edit all the websites that say Euryidium(Cant use real name) was still working on this game in 2016(Not that it matters).
TBH you could have just written:
No, Euryidium is not working or connected to Signal.

Sometimes it's beneficial to provide all the data to help answer questions and concerns.

What websites or information channels might those be?

Thanks!

-LBS