Free upgrade for people who have the game and all dlcs

[Bard_13]

Its unfair for people like me, who have the game and ALLL the dlcs to have to spend money just to get some new fancy graphical effect. FREE UPGRADE! This game is only offering me new graphical effects so it is FAIR!

[Coffee]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Moxd:

Początkowo opublikowane przez ­­Δ👽 Louna 👽Δ­­:

The changes aren't only graphical changes.

Got a link to what the changes might be aside from graphical? I 100%'d Sleeping Dogs on PS3 and then picked this game up on steam for $7 or whatever in a sale, so the $15 isn't an issue for me... unless it's all purely graphical, in which case I was like "meh, ♥♥♥♥ looks good on max settings as it stands..."

I have googled it last night, was able to find highly trustable sources, too busy atm to try to find it back but if i find it i will post it back.

Also there's fmore environemental way to kill.

[ShaDoW]

You're not entitled to anything. Do you like to work for free?

[Coffee]

Początkowo opublikowane przez llllShaDoWllll:

You're not entitled to anything. Do you like to work for free?

I do like to work for ,free.

I still bought Definitive edition!

[Wolfman-RIP]

HD upgrade packs are normally free for PC games.

Shadow of Mordor and Skyrim both gave people FREE HD pack upgrades.

Trying to sell me a HD pack that costs more then I paid for the base game is a joke. The HD upgrade should be a DLC that players get free if you own the base game + all DLC and at 75% off for everyone else who doesn't own all DLC.

[Coffee]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wolfman-RIP:

HD upgrade packs are normally free for PC games.

Shadow of Mordor and Skyrim both gave people FREE HD pack upgrades.

Trying to sell me a HD pack that costs more then I paid for the base game is a joke. The HD upgrade should be a DLC that players get free if you own the base game + all DLC and at 75% off for everyone else who doesn't own all DLC.

There's already a free HD pack for the first game, as the definitive is far from just an HD pack.

[ShaDoW]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wolfman-RIP:

HD upgrade packs are normally free for PC games.

Shadow of Mordor and Skyrim both gave people FREE HD pack upgrades.

Trying to sell me a HD pack that costs more then I paid for the base game is a joke. The HD upgrade should be a DLC that players get free if you own the base game + all DLC and at 75% off for everyone else who doesn't own all DLC.

This isn't a HD pack, there's already a HD Texture pack for the original version of Sleeping Dogs on PC. While i agree that this "Definitive version" is not much superior in terms of graphics to the original PC version maxed out and with the HD Texture pack, this shouldn't be free, the developers did make changes to the original game, but here's the thing YOU'RE NOT obligated to buy it, it is simple as that, i know i'm not buying this because i already have the original version plus some dlcs, so there's no reason for me to buy this.

[Wolfman-RIP]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ­­Δ👽 Louna 👽Δ­­:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wolfman-RIP:

HD upgrade packs are normally free for PC games.

Shadow of Mordor and Skyrim both gave people FREE HD pack upgrades.

Trying to sell me a HD pack that costs more then I paid for the base game is a joke. The HD upgrade should be a DLC that players get free if you own the base game + all DLC and at 75% off for everyone else who doesn't own all DLC.

There's already a free HD pack for the first game, as the definitive is far from just an HD pack.

In the words of Barry Burton. What is it? Hope this isn't Chris's blood?

So what graphics are we paying $15 /£10 for?

[Coffee]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wolfman-RIP:

Początkowo opublikowane przez ­­Δ👽 Louna 👽Δ­­:

There's already a free HD pack for the first game, as the definitive is far from just an HD pack.

In the words of Barry Burton. What is it? Hope this isn't Chris's blood?

So what graphics are we paying $15 /£10 for?

WHy do you complain about the game not being free, when 87% of your 669 games aren't even played?

You purchased games you wouldn't play, fine, but don't complain when it's time to buy the gmae you would want to play.

[Himitsu]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ­­Δ👽 Louna 👽Δ­­:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wolfman-RIP:

In the words of Barry Burton. What is it? Hope this isn't Chris's blood?

So what graphics are we paying $15 /£10 for?

WHy do you complain about the game not being free, when 87% of your 669 games aren't even played?

You purchased games you wouldn't play, fine, but don't complain when it's time to buy the gmae you would want to play.

Because.. Steam logic? ;D

[Derko1]

Początkowo opublikowane przez jorimt:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bard_13:

Its unfair for people like me, who have the game and ALLL the dlcs to have to spend money just to get some new fancy graphical effect. FREE UPGRADE! This game is only offering me new graphical effects so it is FAIR!

Just my opinion, but this is like saying you bought a 2012 sports car and expect the car company to give you a 2014 version of the same model (with minor tweaks and small added features) for free, because you still own the old one.

I'm not saying I'm absolutely going to buy the Definitive version either (I also own the original and most of the DLC), but I think some of this outrage is a little excessive.

Maybe there would have been less anger from original owners if they had kept this a completely separate product on the Steam store and given no discount.

Seems like discounts make people automatically expect an even lower discount or somehow make them think if it has a discount, it should be free.

Ah the internet, where emotion (ironically) beats logic every time, oh well.

That said, you're welcome to your own opinion, free speech and all that.

This isn't the same. You should compare it to instead a free "electronic update" to the car's computer that will add an extra 50hp. Which can be emailed to you and you simply put it in a USB to update the car. $0 cost to the car manufacturer after mass emailing everyone.

That's more of a fair comparison. Since this update is really not costing the dev's ANYTHING at all for those that already have the game.

[jorimt]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Derko1:

This isn't the same. You should compare it to instead a free "electronic update" to the car's computer that will add an extra 50hp. Which can be emailed to you and you simply put it in a USB to update the car. $0 cost to the car manufacturer after mass emailing everyone.

That's more of a fair comparison. Since this update is really not costing the dev's ANYTHING at all for those that already have the game.

To admend my original analogy (which I found perfectly adequate myself), perhaps it's better to compare it to The Lord of the Rings standard edition trilogy on DVD. If you originally owned those, would you expect to get the extended editions free from the company at a later date just because you own the original version? Or you think they would just "patch" in the extra scenes? I think not.

Whether we like it or not, the original owners complaining about the prospect of paying for both should have simply waited for this version if they weren't willing to pay the extra now. And for those exclaiming the new version doesn't add anything worth having, then why in the world do they want it so badly?

Regarding your last point, we don't know what this cost the devs. As I understand it, they switched the exe over from 32-bit to 64-bit, re-did most of the textures and added new effects to the engine. And ignoring the PC version, I'm pretty sure they had to start from square one when porting to the specific architecture of the PS4 and Xbox One.

That sounds like "work" to me. Whether or not we original owners find it impressive, it is considered an entirely separate product from the original, and the fact is, the developers and publishers must be paid.

[Derko1]

I understand your point. What you're missing the point on, is the fact that we're not talking about something physical here. It's something that is digital which will cost them the same amount whether they sold to existing owners or not. The money they are taking on is simply extra. It's not the same to talk about something that has to actually be shipped or made to send to existing customers... I do understand your point though.

It's just that a few years ago... if it were done, then it would simply have come in the form of a patch. I'm happy that they even bothered to do this for PC.... but I will check back on it when it's $5 bucks maybe.

[jorimt]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Derko1:

I understand your point. What you're missing the point on, is the fact that we're not talking about something physical here. It's something that is digital which will cost them the same amount whether they sold to existing owners or not. The money they are taking on is simply extra. It's not the same to talk about something that has to actually be shipped or made to send to existing customers... I do understand your point though.

It's just that a few years ago... if it were done, then it would simply have come in the form of a patch. I'm happy that they even bothered to do this for PC.... but I will check back on it when it's $5 bucks maybe.

Ah, then you're simply talking about distribution. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

And as you said, if original owners don't want to pay the $14.99, there's always the Steam sales.

[Mrbud420 💩]

Początkowo opublikowane przez jorimt:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bard_13:

Its unfair for people like me, who have the game and ALLL the dlcs to have to spend money just to get some new fancy graphical effect. FREE UPGRADE! This game is only offering me new graphical effects so it is FAIR!

Just my opinion, but this is like saying you bought a 2012 sports car and expect the car company to give you a 2014 version of the same model (with minor tweaks and small added features) for free, because you still own the old one..

You are wrong, first off this is not an new car or new model if anything this is like buying a 2012 car in 2014 for the same price it was 2 years ago. This game is old and it has been out for awhile and there is nothing new added to the game at all. That makes the price value very low but these companys will still jack up the price because people will rebuy the same game they have all over again for no reason.

[Mrbud420 💩]

Początkowo opublikowane przez jorimt:

To admend my original analogy (which I found perfectly adequate myself), perhaps it's better to compare it to The Lord of the Rings standard edition trilogy on DVD. If you originally owned those, would you expect to get the extended editions free from the company at a later date just because you own the original version? Or you think they would just "patch" in the extra scenes? I think not..

Such bad analogies. This is not an extended version of anything. Nothing new was added to the game, there is no new dlc or missions. This is like them chrging full price now for the original LORD movie which came out in 2001. Get better analogies please.