I hate this game

[Whitebeard]

I don't say that often. There is really nothing about it I like. I don't like the setup or the story (if there is one), there is nobody to talk to except a guy hiding behind a steel door - and he is lucky I can't get to him. There is no sense or logic to any puzzle, and I can't keep a map in my head of how things are laid out because of all the jumps through "the blue world" that is apparently just unusable scenery. After 7 hours of running around pointlessly, I gave up. I requested a refund, but with 7 hours in it, it was denied. I'm done with Cyan.

[Whitebeard]

Consider that i have gotten through every other Myst game with no help or hints. What does that say about this game?

I blew up the red laser, went to the bridge as the only place I know I ccan get through the membrane to the host world. I ended up, sadly predictably, In a spot with another machine, and no place to go except back to the bridge. Am I missing something that everyone else sees?

Hang on, I found the lever that got me back to main area, but I am still on the wrong side of where I need to be. Found a way aound to the other side, walked all over and accomplished nothing.

[Top Gun]

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Consider that i have gotten through every other Myst game with no help or hints. What does that say about this game?

Considering that I needed hints to get through every other Cyan-developed game yet completed this one without any, what does that say? Absolutely nothing, nor does your experience. We're both just anecdoes. Just as I was unable to see the intuition in Riven's infamous fire-marble puzzle until after looking at a strategy guide, I can assure you that Obduction has its own consistent internal logic.

Now, you say you wound up in a place with another machine. Did you try to do anything with it? If what you tried didn't work, think about how you can restore power/functionality to it.

Edit: Okay, you wound up back where you needed to be. Try looking around. Something should have changed.

[Whitebeard]

The big bucket is gone, but all i found on ther other side was another seed machine leading to a place with a white door and one of those slimy data panels. I now have 11 hours and one achievement and I'm still getting nowhere. I play games to escape the world. This is worse than the world. I'm done with it. Thanks for trying to help, but I do not need another ordeal in my life.

[ApeWithPC]

I'm in Maray, you will just hate it here I'm sure, but not because it's a lush rain forest, instead because there's a great big puzzling maze to get thru :)

This exploration guide can be helpful if/when you get stuck.
http://obduction.gamepedia.com/Obduction_Exploration_Guide

[Whitebeard]

I hate all of it. I uninstalled it from both of my computers. On to things I enjoy with no guilt.

[ApeWithPC]

Well, have fun with whatever game you take up next.

I'm 17 hrs into Obduction and only have two trees plugged in so far, with only 5 achievements, safe to say I'm going slower than average. It was a little frustrating at first until I understood the objective and got the swapping machanics. Now I'm having fun with it. I like to explore a lot and the spatial puzzles are fun for me too, pencil and paper helps sometimes. I found a copy of a Myst book on Hunrath, found some good writing in that room too, fun exploring :)

[MADBUZRD]

Since when is Obduction a "sequel"?

[Whitebeard]

According to Cyan, the Myst series is: Myst, Riven, Obduction.

[Top Gun]

They, uh, never said that. Obduction is in its own universe and has absolutely nothing to do with Myst, other than the obvious stylistic/gameplay influences.

[BlackUmbrellas]

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According to Cyan, the Myst series is: Myst, Riven, Obduction.

As Top Gun said, nooooope. Obduction is a spiritual successor to the Myst games. Different thing.

[Biorr]

You really need to read a review to see if a game is your jam or not. Don't dump on a game that your simply not into. The puzzles are good as is the story. If you can't get into it that is your problem.

[Whitebeard]

I think we have done that subject to death. And as I said, I bought it before it was released. I had no idea what it was going to be like.

[Whitebeard]

I will shock you all. I started over on the game, got through Hunrath and Kaptar, and started on Maray. Got all the way to the maze. Then I went under the maze and found a sort of seed machine. I started it, but it didn't seem to do anything except light up the walls. I didn't think to go back to the elevator, and I saw what looked like stationary doors on the walls. I walked into one of them. I ended up falling for thousands of feet with the shing, shing, shing, of going through membranes one after the other. I ended up stuck in scenery high above water in what looks like Kaptar. No escape and no saves other than the current progress.

I have to start over again, and I still hate this game. There are only two tasks to be accomplished in each world: Destroy the evil red laser, and turn on the water for the tree. Everything else is just details. The only story is war, and the Villein (read: Villains) apparently capturing others and using them for food. Nice. I preferred Atrus's disfunctional family.

[Top Gun]

Re: the location glitch, if you upload your save file and post it here, I'm sure one of the resident wizards will be able to move your character back to where you need to be. And, um, you might want to hold off on proclaiming gospel truths about the story until you've seen things play out.

(There are only two tasks to be accomplished in every Myst world: find a blue/red page, and get back to Myst. There is only one task to be accomplished in every Super Mario world: run right and hit the flag. Everything else is just details. Funny how oversimplification works, isn't it?)

[Whitebeard]

Too late. I deleted all the three games I had started then stopped, or destroyed.

Actually, you don't need to get any of the blue and red pages in Myst. If you know the pattern to punch in inside the fireplace (page 158 in the pattern book), then you only have to flip all the switches on the island, and unswitch the one on the dock. Then you get the white sheet, go through the fireplace to Atrus and give the white sheet to him. Game over. Isn't it funny what a little knowledge can do?

Of course, by now, you all know I did slog through the whole game. I can, from my post game perspective see,Top Gun's internal logic he was on about. That wasn't entirely evident from within the game, though. At least to me. Maybe I've been away from major title games too long and gotten out of touch with game evolution. Anyway, I got through it. It has its moments, but I don't really get any satisfaction from the story. In the Myst series, you know everything you see is the result of a written book by someone using some strange and mystical power to form the worlds. I don't know any more about the why of the world in Obduction then I did before I played it. It's an ending without an explanation.