why all the hate?

[Gamma Zark]

i just found out about this game moments ago and watched all the trailers on steam and thoguht oh a new overlord game cool. i come to the discussions to see if there is any news about the game all i see are people raging about this game.

my question is why all the hate? is there something i am missing? its not a moba from what the trailers show and i curious about where this takes place in the time line ( i'm thinking right before they find the overlords son from 2).

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by Yarri:

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake GB:

"I wanted a proper overlord 3, and because I don't like the new look of this one, that means no one else should either and I will forever complain about this game"

Pretty much the vibe I've been given off this thread ;p

It still looks like alot of fun to me, but I feel looking at the sort of people who post here, I can't take peoples opinions on the game and assume they're NOT biased -_-

Dude the game is already out and the verdict is in. The game sucks. The white knights can't deffend it now.

Also it seems they haven't fixed the DRM/Save Bug. By the way if you have trouble saving the game that means the game is now editing your system varriables and will do permenant damage if you contine to play the game.

I haven't got the game, I said it *looks* fun, and I'm going to have to read it from more then 1 or 2 people to count it as a "verdict" anyway otherwise I'll just naturally assume people are being biased because they've been complaining since day 1 that it wasn't overlord 3

[Kevin the Inkling]

Dude the forums are flooding consistantly about bug complaints. Other people claim they already beat the entire campain.


I described the fact Minions are just an effect and play no actual role. I described the bugs are terrible and do actual damage to your computer and is mostly related to a DRM/Save system.

I also mentioned the game being extremely short.

Thos was before the game was out. I think my "Claims" Of having been a Beta tester are affirmed now.

[Doktor Mandrake]

Just take a look at some of the negative reviews

"Nothing like old Overlord. Requesting refund."

lmao

I'm not saying you're wrong though, but you can see why I have to take some peoples comments on a game with a grain of salt? Some people are very biased alot of the time

[404 Float not found]

So i'm a huge fan of Overlord
I went into this game knowing its not Overlord 3, its an action rpg.
Boy, I sure was dissapointed.
I've played some bad games to the end but this, this is.. I don't know what this is.
Its trash.

[Kevin the Inkling]

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake GB:

Just take a look at some of the negative reviews

"Nothing like old Overlord. Requesting refund."

lmao

I'm not saying you're wrong though, but you can see why I have to take some peoples comments on a game with a grain of salt? Some people are very biased alot of the time

In all honestly. Alot of people didn't realize this was gonna be a isometric game at all. Just looking at the screenshots on he storefront somepeople might just think it's the same style of game as before.

But the complaints are stil legimate.

And as Amor Sin said. The game is Trash.

I beta tested. Told you all it was trash. Sometimes it sucks being right.

[Cujo]

Remember, the game franchises: Disciples, Dungeon Siege, Dungeon Keeper, Command & Conquer. All good franchises that eventually got screwed by some dumass. Well, you get the idea. Some braniac decided to screw the old moniker, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and decided to say screw the fan base, hail to the casual gamer, hail to mass appeal, and created a Frankenstein.

I'm hoping that someone out there makes a real overlord, instead of another action rpg. And why make an action rpg because that's what friggin sellin these days, baby. There was a time when everyone wanted to be the WOW killer and cranked out MMO's like they were after dinner mints. Now everyone wants be the next Diablo killer. Eeesh!

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by Yarri:

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake GB:

Just take a look at some of the negative reviews

"Nothing like old Overlord. Requesting refund."

lmao

I'm not saying you're wrong though, but you can see why I have to take some peoples comments on a game with a grain of salt? Some people are very biased alot of the time

In all honestly. Alot of people didn't realize this was gonna be a isometric game at all. Just looking at the screenshots on he storefront somepeople might just think it's the same style of game as before.

But the complaints are stil legimate.

And as Amor Sin said. The game is Trash.

I beta tested. Told you all it was trash. Sometimes it sucks being right.

Yeah it does, I loved the other two games, especially the humour which is alot of the time hit or miss with me when games put humour into them

[98 BODY PROBLEM]

Its not just the spin-off status, its the fixed camera angle, 4-player co-op focus, control scheme (I am having trouble figuring out how to even change it) and bad tutorial. The camera angle and sizing mean that a mage character runs blindly into combat. EDIT: But I am going to reserve final judgement until I have the time to really get into it.

[Rabid Urko]

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake GB:

Just take a look at some of the negative reviews

"Nothing like old Overlord. Requesting refund."

lmao

I'm not saying you're wrong though, but you can see why I have to take some peoples comments on a game with a grain of salt? Some people are very biased alot of the time

This.

[A Trap]

@Yarri
-Well, Mighty No. 9 IS the original creator of Megaman. Though the proof of people wanting a new Megaman game wasn't because of Mighty 9, just go on Capcom's forums and you would see that people wanted it. Mighty 9 was just a way that Capcom finally saw that people wanted a new Megaman game (as we all know, Capcom doesn't look at it forums.)

-Both could have worked, though Kickstarter cost money to do and if it fails, then there's money down the drain.

-Then let's look at it as them giving us an Overlord type game to hold us over till Overlord 3.

-That's a good thing, is it not? I would totally be mad if they DID say this was Overlord 3.

-Are...you directing that at me?...Going to say no. Well the success of the previous game is a big factor in whether the devs make another game of that franchise. Regardless of how good it is, I mean, look at CoD. Basically the same thing every year, but with different guns, buuuut since a bunch of people keep buying it, they will continue making them until they can't make money.

-Mario Kart* If they are broke, not they are or not, then a Kickstarter would be best for them.

-Not big into racing games or know much about it, so I can't say anything. It's also been a long time since Overlord 2 to remember how the promoted the game. If they did a bad job like you say, then they gotta learn and try again...Like Nintendo doing a piss poor job at promoting the Wii U.

-Are...they saying they're broke? I personally haven't heard anything about it.

-Maybe they did, I again cannot say for certain because I haven't been following them like I've been doing for other games and companies.
A thought did occur to me at this point however. If what you say is true about them doing a bad job with handling money and IP's. Then this game very well could be them checking to see if the Overlord fanbase is still there.

[Kevin the Inkling]

Originally posted by Zecora:

@Yarri
-Well, Mighty No. 9 IS the original creator of Megaman. Though the proof of people wanting a new Megaman game wasn't because of Mighty 9, just go on Capcom's forums and you would see that people wanted it. Mighty 9 was just a way that Capcom finally saw that people wanted a new Megaman game (as we all know, Capcom doesn't look at it forums.)

-Both could have worked, though Kickstarter cost money to do and if it fails, then there's money down the drain.

-Then let's look at it as them giving us an Overlord type game to hold us over till Overlord 3.

-That's a good thing, is it not? I would totally be mad if they DID say this was Overlord 3.

-Are...you directing that at me?...Going to say no. Well the success of the previous game is a big factor in whether the devs make another game of that franchise. Regardless of how good it is, I mean, look at CoD. Basically the same thing every year, but with different guns, buuuut since a bunch of people keep buying it, they will continue making them until they can't make money.

-Mario Kart* If they are broke, not they are or not, then a Kickstarter would be best for them.

-Not big into racing games or know much about it, so I can't say anything. It's also been a long time since Overlord 2 to remember how the promoted the game. If they did a bad job like you say, then they gotta learn and try again...Like Nintendo doing a piss poor job at promoting the Wii U.

-Are...they saying they're broke? I personally haven't heard anything about it.

-Maybe they did, I again cannot say for certain because I haven't been following them like I've been doing for other games and companies.
A thought did occur to me at this point however. If what you say is true about them doing a bad job with handling money and IP's. Then this game very well could be them checking to see if the Overlord fanbase is still there.

Codemasters never said that. The people deffending this game said CodeMasters was broke.

Second if future Overlord tittles are being tested then this is the wrong way to do it. That'd be like Nintendo wanting to if people wanted any more Luigi's Mansion games and they release a Mario Cart Game "Luigi Cart". That is not a way to test. Seccessful or not maybe it's seccessful because the Mario Cart fans like it?

Second even if your testing you should put some effort into it.

Overlord 2 is considered a "Hidden Gem" Hidden Gem Games are games that are high quality but lesser known due to either poor sales, low production, or lack luster marketing.

The fact Overlord 2 has "Hidden Gem" Status means the game is good but Codemasters messed up sales. And the reason sales were low is simple poor promotion. Even if it's something you want. You won't buy it if you don't know it exists.

Yeah Codemasters specializes in racing games. Which is a niche Market. A Racing game has to do alot to stand out from the pack. Nintendo realizes this that's why you see unrealistic racing tittles such as F1 Zero and Mario Cart. Being unrealistic isn't always a bad thing.

The Majority of racing games try to be so realistic and such. That doesn't nessicarly make them bad. However they do kinda blend in.

Oh an people have demanded an Overlord 3 quite often on Codemaster forums, Steam forums, CodeMaster's Facebook and twitter etc. Really look it up. People not only been demanding it for a long time but consistantly too.

That's why the comparison with Mighty no 9. Really making a game to gauge intrest is an poor method. Capcom ignored their Fans cries for future games. Codemasters brushed it off to the side.

Hell a big Ruckus came out as a result of this image due to the resemblance to the Overlord character. It force Codemasters to explain it was a graphics test and nothing more.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/overlord/images/b/b3/F_unreal43_ss.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120602151946

If demand was low such an Image wouldn't raise so much talk and articles.

However at the end of the day this game is proving to be as bad as the fans thought it would be.

[A Trap]

@Yarri
-Gotcha

-Tested?

-I would totally say Overlord 2 is a Hidden Gem.

-Nintendo's racing games are the only ones that are outside the box of "realistic" racing games. Which is a reason it's popular, that and Mario Kart is a racing game with Mario characters and now Link and Animal Crossing!

-Agreed, with every game now trying to be realistic, it just all blends together and doesn't stand out as much as an unrealistic game like Mario Kart does.

-I don't doubt that people do, but if they don't break like 100 people, why would a gaming company care that much? CoD fans are in the millions wanting new CoD's, so with that in mind, Activision will know at least a million copies will sell and thus making a major profit. 100 or so people asking for a game isn't really going to get anywhere.

-Not sure if you can compare Capcom and Codemasters to much. Capcom is a much bigger company, widely well known and has popular IP's. Yeah Capcom ignored thier fans, because it most likely went down like this:
Capcom fans -> 1,000,000
Megaman -> 150,000
Darkstalkers -> 50,000
Resident Evil -> 25,000
Devil May Cry -> 75,000
Marvel vs. Capcom -> 200,000
Street Fighter -> 500,000
To them, it's all about where they can make the most money, even if they have to milk that franchise to death.

-Dat image doh, looks good, but I wouldn't say it looks like an Overlord though. maybe similar in the faceless face and glowing eyes, buts that's all. IMO

[I_Wanna_Be_Hef]

I have read some of the comments here, and I think we should all just give it a chance. I have played all Overload games, and they really made a fun and enjoyable game. I didn't know how fun it would be until I actually played it. And, boy, was the adventures fun. I did it on Xbox 360, so now, I am buying it for Steam (because I just moved to an Alienware Alpha -- YYYYYAAAAHHHHHOOOOO!!!!) and leaving Xbox for Steam. So, I think just give it a chance and make your comments after the new one comes out.

[HoneyBadger]

If it weren't for the Overlord name, I would not give this game a second chance. As it stands, I've played a few hours during this morning, and I am not happy I did. I'm not sad, either, but there where better things to do.

The main problem isn't that this a game with the Overlord name that isn't Overlord 3, which we all wanted. It's that they tried to make a spin-off action-rpg'ish game, and failed. I am honestly sorry to say, but this game has nothing that would make me want to spend more time with it, except the Overlord looks. The combat is slow and simplistic, the uppgrades are linear, the AI for your minions is crap (they often just run headlong into this "golden" that turns them into enemies), the enemy variety is pretty much non-existing.


This game is not just a bad Overlord game, it's a bad game in general. Sorry Codemasters, but you really failed to make a action-rpg, hack & slash'ish game even close to decent. Take away the Overlord looks, and this game is left with no redeeming qualities.