Tips for bigginers at AGEOD games

[Sor Geogus]

Hi guys.

I enjoy estrategy games and most of my expirience comes from paradox titles such as darkest hour, crusader kings II and Europa Universalis (more than all darkest hour and Hearts of iron, which are more grand war strategy that I like better)

I ve made some resarch and it seems to me that AGEOD game are more complex, but im not sure about that.

With my curreent expirience in strategy games, is it possible to learn how to play the game in little time.

Besides, the tutorial seems to have some problemas, according to some topics in this forum, Im aware that strategy game requires a good read at manuals but, even so, the tutorial is important to teach the basics. ( in special with a engine im not familiar with)

The tutoral works well enough to teach the basics?

Thx in advance

PS: sorry poor english

[Mark]

You ask... "The tutorial works well enough to teach the basics?"

As long as your aware of the Bug the first tutorial has in it's first battle as mentioned in this forum. (Broken tutorial for example). I hope they are to patch that soon.. gets confusing to a beginner.

Even in the main gameplay I get a lot of "stalemate" battle results when it should not be a stalemate. . ??

[Sor Geogus]

This game is more comple than paradox titles Herats of Iron or darkest hour, or the same level of complexity?

[Mark]

About the same level.. others may have a different view.

[FlaGuitars]

In my opinion the tutorials work well enough to teach what they are designed to teach and also the games’ tool tip system is so well that I do know someone who skipped the tutorials and just jumped right in. Granted this person had some experience with game of this type but it sound as if you , also, have experience with grand strategy games. So with the tool-tips you can actually skip the tutorials.

[Sor Geogus]

I got 2 more questions....

1) Since this a turn based game (which i lke more because it feels more like chess and because my strategy is not affected by how fast I move around the map), not real time, how battles are like?
I move my army to attack an enemy posion an next turn I get an box telling the results or there is something else? Battles take just one turn (granted I dont know how much time a turn repressents) or two armies remain engaged for several turns if conditions are present?

2) Im brazilian and american civil war is not an histoy subject I know a lot (altough I know a few things).
What are other AGEOD titles that are cuurent generation with similar mechanics or level of complexity? (wouldnt like to buy an old game with outdated mechanics)
I was interested at Hannibal, terror of Rome, but according to my research this game seems even more complex than Civil War II?

IS that right?

[TXcavalier]

1) Yes, if you do engage in combat you will always get a results box. You can then see the results for each round of combat. However, its not 100% that if you move towards an enemy in an offensive posture that there will be a battle. There are MANY factors that can delay or affect whether armies actually engage in combat. If there is combat and neither army is forced out of a province then you can have multiple turn battles (combat starts again early the next turn). Each turn is 15 days. So, there can be multiple battles in that 15 day stretch as well.

2) Not sure on the other newer titles. But, this game takes place in the same time period of your Brazilian war against Paraguay. You face the same challenges of their era of warfare. So, you might get some historic feel for it if you get a chance.

P.S. Go to the AGEOD website and read some of the CW2 AARs people have written. It will give you a good indication of how the game plays out.

[FlaGuitars]

I have not played the Hannibal game but the Matrix site list the complexity level of Hannibal as Intermediate. It list the complexity level of Civil War II as Intermediate, Advance, Expert..depending on your AI/Game settings. So from that I would say Hannibal is not as complex.

[PocusFR]

It also depend a lot of troop density, that can vary between 2 scenarios in the same game. CW2 and playing Sibley Campaign is rather easy as you have few troops and a lot of turns. I would not suggest trying a main campaign (the April or July one) without some experience in smaller scenarios.

[ClownPrince40]

Автор сообщения: Sor Geogus

2) Im brazilian and american civil war is not an histoy subject I know a lot (altough I know a few things).
What are other AGEOD titles that are cuurent generation with similar mechanics or level of complexity? (wouldnt like to buy an old game with outdated mechanics)
I was interested at Hannibal, terror of Rome, but according to my research this game seems even more complex than Civil War II?

IS that right?

If you are interested in the the Russian Civil War, they have Revolution Under Siege. They also have a Spanish Revolution game called España 1936. Both of those games run off the same engine as CW2. They also have a new WW1 game coming out in a couple months. The Alea Jacta Est games are not overly complex in my opinion, they are easier than CW2. Pride of Nations and WW1G are probably their most complex games, but if you can play games like Hearts of Iron and Victoria, then you should be able to learn how to play most of AGEOD's games.

[mariandavid]

You might try Rise of Prussia Gold (the Gold is the update that adds some of the things in CW2) from Steam. Covers the 7 Years War and part of the War of Austrian Succession. I find it a lot easier than CW 2 but it has almost exactly the same mechanics.

[Nats]

I am finding CW2 quite easy to play compared to CW1 and in fact you can pretty much play the game by just concentrating on organising your armies, moving and using the stances and forget everything else. Although the province strategies are quite good as well to get partisans etc. But otherwise the rest of the game can pretty much be considered or ignored as you feel like it, you cant get much simpler than that.

[Gilmer]

I'm unsure why people say the 1st tutorial is broken. I just installed the steam version of the game and played through the tutorial. I won every battle I was supposed to win and nothing went amiss.

[Mark]

Автор сообщения: joekidd1992

I'm unsure why people say the 1st tutorial is broken. I just installed the steam version of the game and played through the tutorial. I won every battle I was supposed to win and nothing went amiss.

The bug has been confirmed by the developer so if it worked for you the first time through ... good for you. Did you follow the online video tutorial or the games text tutorial ? Does not matter really as the bug as been found by the game developer and will be patched for future first time buyers. :)