why so much hate ?

[koko]

the game will not be a f2p and i can understand why people get upset about this, but we don't know the price, we don't know the economic system. I think that's pretty sad because the graphics looks really cool it's minimalist and not too detailed that litteraly the point of the game, there will be lore, the caracters looks cool and not "woke" it's not concord guys you need to stop. 4 maps at the launch is kinda great i think. I just need some explaination from people why they already hate the game ?

[Moonwitch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Gannibal Kujoe:

Diposting pertama kali oleh zastcat:

I hate it because I remember what the original marathon games were, not the most amazing gameplay but a surprisingly deep story if you knew where to look that seeped into pretty much every part of bungie's work for years

the reclaimer symbol in halo? that was the symbol for the marathon, ai rampancy? that started with durandal and arguably the player character of the original 3 marathon games, mida getting referenced in destiny? guess what that was also from a plot point of marathon, people are still debating over bits and pieces of hidden story in those games with online communities entirely dedicated to trying to make it into something easier for people to see and understand

they took that legacy and turn around and go "hey what if we make a generic extraction shooter?" "what if we make it a live service after we basically made that highly questionable practice what it is with destiny and destiny 2?" "what if we drop story which was arguably the most important and memorable part of those games and the main reason they're remembered for a pvp shooter we could've put in literally any other scifi setting?"

I couldn't care less about the people making forced concord comparisons or whining about "woke", I care that bungie continues to spit on the legacy that got them this far

I didn't know this. I see now why people kept mentioning Durandal in chat.

It's a whole rabbit hole, like the whole concept is mind melting. Definitely worth watching MandaloreGaming's review on all three Marathons.

Enjoy the ride.

[patrick68794]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

Because people nowadays get volun-told to blindly hate things they don't bother researching. Game looks interesting even though I am not a fan of extraction shooters.

It's actually just because it doesn't look like a good game.

[Moonwitch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

Because people nowadays get volun-told to blindly hate things they don't bother researching. Game looks interesting even though I am not a fan of extraction shooters.

It's actually just because it doesn't look like a good game.

And what does look like a good game?

[patrick68794]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

It's actually just because it doesn't look like a good game.

And what does look like a good game?

If we're talking about games similar to this then Arc Raiders looks to be significantly better.

[Moonwitch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

And what does look like a good game?

If we're talking about games similar to this then Arc Raiders looks to be significantly better.

Arc Raiders looks significantly worse and unfinished.

[patrick68794]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

If we're talking about games similar to this then Arc Raiders looks to be significantly better.

Arc Raiders looks significantly worse and unfinished.

Incorrect lol

[Moonwitch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

Arc Raiders looks significantly worse and unfinished.

Incorrect lol

Nope, it's called an opinion. It looks mid, sorry. Forever Winter looks more interesting than Arc Raiders.

[King Fatal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh koko:

the game will not be a f2p and i can understand why people get upset about this, but we don't know the price, we don't know the economic system. I think that's pretty sad because the graphics looks really cool it's minimalist and not too detailed that litteraly the point of the game, there will be lore, the caracters looks cool and not "woke" it's not concord guys you need to stop. 4 maps at the launch is kinda great i think. I just need some explaination from people why they already hate the game ?

Two things to consider.

1. If they would have named this game anything else, no one would have cared a single iota about the legacy being spit on because they wouldn't be spitting on any legacy.

2. If they would have named this game anything else, no one would give a flying F about this game.

I hope Bungie burns to the ground. Not because they are spitting on a they legacy of a great game, not because they are some cash grabbing organization only in it for the money.
(They are both of those things for the record.)

I hope Bungie burns to the ground because they have become a sad pathetic shadow of what they used to be and they don't even deserve to retain their name. This company is no longer Bungie, they are Microsoft Gaming..... Bungie division.

[Moonwitch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh King Fatal:

Diposting pertama kali oleh koko:

the game will not be a f2p and i can understand why people get upset about this, but we don't know the price, we don't know the economic system. I think that's pretty sad because the graphics looks really cool it's minimalist and not too detailed that litteraly the point of the game, there will be lore, the caracters looks cool and not "woke" it's not concord guys you need to stop. 4 maps at the launch is kinda great i think. I just need some explaination from people why they already hate the game ?

Two things to consider.

1. If they would have named this game anything else, no one would have cared a single iota about the legacy being spit on because they wouldn't be spitting on any legacy.

2. If they would have named this game anything else, no one would give a flying F about this game.

I hope Bungie burns to the ground. Not because they are spitting on a they legacy of a great game, not because they are some cash grabbing organization only in it for the money.
(They are both of those things for the record.)

I hope Bungie burns to the ground because they have become a sad pathetic shadow of what they used to be and they don't even deserve to retain their name. This company is no longer Bungie, they are Microsoft Gaming..... Bungie division.

They're owned by Sony.

[lowkitz]

I am in love with this games aesthetic unlike a lot of people, and am a huge Bungie fan, and have been hyped for this game for awhile. However, you shouldn't get to be a big live service online multiplayer only game then not be free to play, pick your poison in 2025, we have plenty of other options. Might pick it up if the reviews are like super overwhelmingly positive somehow though, they should have learnt their lesson with Concord in that regard.

Edited to remove my horrible run on sentence.

[Ghoulish]

I don’t personally hate the reimagined Marathon, but I really don’t like what they’ve reimagined it as.

The artwork and advertisements look great, the trailers are solid, and the concept seemed interesting. But then the gameplay reveal dropped… and it just looked off. Washed out, yet somehow overly saturated—like someone cranked the digital vibrance to 100 and used some tool to run Destiny 2 on PC in potato mode. Watching the gameplay, it looked slow, boring, bland—and honestly, just like Destiny 2.

I’m not saying Destiny 2 is a bad game, but it’s been around for so long, and Bungie keeps recycling the same guns, abilities, animations, and sounds. It’s like they’re trying to do something new, but it never really is.

And a “hero extraction shooter”? That doesn’t sound enjoyable in the slightest. The market is already oversaturated with hero shooters and failed attempts at decent extraction shooters. The fact that it isn’t free-to-play is bizarre too. I don’t think the $40 price tag is unreasonable, but knowing Bungie, it’s going to be packed with the most heinous microtransactions known to man.

This whole thing just feels like something Sony has pushed them to rush out. Most of us know by now that Bungie has been a money sink for every company that’s owned them, and Marathon feels like it could be make-or-break for them—before Sony pulls the plug and swallows the rest.

And honestly, I doubt much is going to change between the closed alpha (NA only—slow clap) and whatever kind of open test they’re planning next. At this point, it just feels like we’re watching a familiar cycle repeat itself.

But hey, at least they’re not forcing people to have a PSN account for this one, right? RIGHT!?

[koko]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BingusDingus:

Because they gave up Destiny to make this, instead of making this they could of made a Destiny 3.

Marathon looks generic in every way a game cannot afford to, it's a painfully generic game in a been here done that genre already populated with much better games that actually offer something unique and solid.

Making this an extraction shooter already means that the cards are stacked against them, it's a very niche genre that caters to hardcore players, there's not enough potential for growth in this genre for a mid game to co-exist alongside better games.
It does not have the mass market appeal that a studio like Bungie needs, it would be another thing if this was just an extra mode for a much larger game, but this is the game.
To invest so much money into something like this is a massive mistake and I see the blood in the water, I can already see this becoming another Concord situation, I just hope Bungie survives the fallout.

you know that destiny 3 is coming right ?

[koko]

Diposting pertama kali oleh patrick68794:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moonwitch:

And what does look like a good game?

If we're talking about games similar to this then Arc Raiders looks to be significantly better.

ho yeah the game who everybody complain about because it's an EXTRACTION SHOOTER

[Horn]

Diposting pertama kali oleh koko:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BingusDingus:

Because they gave up Destiny to make this, instead of making this they could of made a Destiny 3.

Marathon looks generic in every way a game cannot afford to, it's a painfully generic game in a been here done that genre already populated with much better games that actually offer something unique and solid.

Making this an extraction shooter already means that the cards are stacked against them, it's a very niche genre that caters to hardcore players, there's not enough potential for growth in this genre for a mid game to co-exist alongside better games.
It does not have the mass market appeal that a studio like Bungie needs, it would be another thing if this was just an extra mode for a much larger game, but this is the game.
To invest so much money into something like this is a massive mistake and I see the blood in the water, I can already see this becoming another Concord situation, I just hope Bungie survives the fallout.

you know that destiny 3 is coming right ?

It's absolutely not. The developers have said it many times, they don't want to make D3. And to be honest, in their current state, after a bunch of layoffs and wasted resources on this nonsense called Marathon - they can't make D3.

[koko]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Horn:

Diposting pertama kali oleh koko:

you know that destiny 3 is coming right ?

It's absolutely not. The developers have said it many times, they don't want to make D3. And to be honest, in their current state, after a bunch of layoffs and wasted resources on this nonsense called Marathon - they can't make D3.

so they left project payback ?