My opinions on the demo

[Criarino]

Just played 2 battles and have some feedback to give as a veteran total war (and strategy games in general) player:
Firstly, I like that units are more autonomous and how you can set their behaviour when engaged, the orders system is also cool as it makes you position your generals more tactically, and I also like the focus on historical autenticity.
For the bad parts, for some reason the game didn't run too well. I'm above the recomended requirements but still noticed lag when giving orders to a unit, and even just draging to position them, and also had low FPS when the units were engaged. I don't really care much about graphics but I do care about music, sound effects and animations, all of which this demo sorely lacks, but I understand it's only a demo and not necessarily representative of the final game. I hope it also gets voice lines. The UI could also be improved, unit cards are too simple, at least add a panel behind them to improve visibility, and it should also show more info about the units: if they are engaged, under fire, losing or winning current engagement, integrity, etc, and differentiating groups just by colour is not enough, it should also have numbers; there's a reason why total war's UI changed so little the last few games. For commands, I would like to have a way to see every unit's current order (like the move arrows) with a hotkey, not sure if that's already possible. Unit responsiveness is also an important topic: the messenger mechanic is very cool, but having units not listen to your commands is grinding and I imagine can become quite troublesome in a larger campaign, so I suggest at least making the messengers faster. Also I suggest increasing the scale: bigger maps with more terrain variety, smaller models, smaller UI. Also I wish I could customize the demo armies more.

[StrategosGames]

Thanks for the feedback.

What are your pc stats and what FPS exactly did you have? Performance is still wip ofc and always being improved.

The demo does have music, but maybe you did not turn the music volume up enough, or had music muted, in the settings? SFX are pretty wip/placeholder though. Voice lines later will be nice, not being worked on currently but it's a todo.

Unit cards do show state like firing/under fire, charging/in melee/pursuing, routed or dispersed, cohesion level, veterancy, if general, if in concealment etc...which info for you was missing? Winning/losing info is too lengthy to put on the card but is available if you click a unit and hover its opponent with the cursor. A panel behind unit cards could work but it's kind of a stylistic choice to have them on their own.

The courier system is a core design aspect that distinguishes it from other games, but does require some adjustment.

The demo does not include large size armies, or reenactments which are even larger than large size armies, and the final game will have dozens of maps. There is a UI scalar in the in-battle settings as well.

Thanks again!

[dsiOne]

Regarding the overlays, I'd really like them all to be toggle-able together (including current hotkey only things like the current move order both just on selected/highlighted unit and for all units) like Graviteam Tactics rather than a forced swap between them. Yes you can turn your screen into an absolute mess of crossing lines if you toggle them all on at once, but if they're interlinked you're spending time fighting the UI instead of the AI.

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by dsiOne:

Regarding the overlays, I'd really like them all to be toggle-able together (including current hotkey only things like the current move order both just on selected/highlighted unit and for all units) like Graviteam Tactics rather than a forced swap between them. Yes you can turn your screen into an absolute mess of crossing lines if you toggle them all on at once, but if they're interlinked you're spending time fighting the UI instead of the AI.

this is on the todo list

[Rubyko]

Gonna use this thread to share my own opinion rather than create my own. I liked the battle that I played, I enjoyed the autonomy that the OP mentioned as well, and being visually informed through pop-up text above the unit when something like terrain is affecting said unit is nice. My two main problems were that some sound lacks "impact" to make my clicks feel like they did something (stuff like giving the order to attack, move, or toggling running) and some tooltips and UI elements need either a bit more contrast or to be simplified a bit, although I do understand that finalising changes in an UI is borderline impossible until a game is feature complete.

Overall the demo did grab my attention, this is a game I have my eyes on for sure and I'm guilty of peddling it a bit in my regional wargaming group ahah.

[BRICKEDUP420]

Using this thread. The game definitely needs some technical work. playing a second time last night i shut it off. Game was running my GPU at over 80 degrees C. I'm RTX 2060 Super it's not the greatest card but it shouldn't be running that hot with a game like this. Which I love the simplistic look of things I just didn't expect them to run so hard.

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by A R M I N I U S:

Using this thread. The game definitely needs some technical work. playing a second time last night i shut it off. Game was running my GPU at over 80 degrees C. I'm RTX 2060 Super it's not the greatest card but it shouldn't be running that hot with a game like this. Which I love the simplistic look of things I just didn't expect them to run so hard.

thanks for the feedback. If I may ask, what are all of your pc stats? What fps did you get?

[BRICKEDUP420]

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

Originally posted by A R M I N I U S:

Using this thread. The game definitely needs some technical work. playing a second time last night i shut it off. Game was running my GPU at over 80 degrees C. I'm RTX 2060 Super it's not the greatest card but it shouldn't be running that hot with a game like this. Which I love the simplistic look of things I just didn't expect them to run so hard.

thanks for the feedback. If I may ask, what are all of your pc stats? What fps did you get?

Nvidia GTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB
HyperX Fury DDR4 RAM 16GB
Icore I7-10700 2.90 Ghz 8-core
Main board on 500 GB Solid C drive
Backup drive 1 TB Hard D drive
I stay locked at 60 FPS. I did set menu option to 60 FPS as well, so maybe that interfered with my Pc settings and I may have been getting much higher. Also I installed the game on my HDD, I'll try it on my solid see if it does the same.

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

thanks for the feedback. If I may ask, what are all of your pc stats? What fps did you get?

Nvidia GTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB
HyperX Fury DDR4 RAM 16GB
Icore I7-10700 2.90 Ghz 8-core
Main board on 500 GB Solid C drive
Backup drive 1 TB Hard D drive
I stay locked at 60 FPS. I did set menu option to 60 FPS as well, so maybe that interfered with my Pc settings and I may have been getting much higher. Also I installed the game on my HDD, I'll try it on my solid see if it does the same.

thanks! let me know if there are some settings either in game or in nvidia that change the temp the game runs at for you.

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

thanks for the feedback. If I may ask, what are all of your pc stats? What fps did you get?

Nvidia GTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB
HyperX Fury DDR4 RAM 16GB
Icore I7-10700 2.90 Ghz 8-core
Main board on 500 GB Solid C drive
Backup drive 1 TB Hard D drive
I stay locked at 60 FPS. I did set menu option to 60 FPS as well, so maybe that interfered with my Pc settings and I may have been getting much higher. Also I installed the game on my HDD, I'll try it on my solid see if it does the same.

also, what resolution are you using?

[BRICKEDUP420]

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Nvidia GTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB
HyperX Fury DDR4 RAM 16GB
Icore I7-10700 2.90 Ghz 8-core
Main board on 500 GB Solid C drive
Backup drive 1 TB Hard D drive
I stay locked at 60 FPS. I did set menu option to 60 FPS as well, so maybe that interfered with my Pc settings and I may have been getting much higher. Also I installed the game on my HDD, I'll try it on my solid see if it does the same.

also, what resolution are you using?

1920x1080
I reinstalled on SSD and turned the settings down. AA at 2x, pp and dust off, small unit sizes, no grass. Still runs my gpu hot unfortunately :(

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

also, what resolution are you using?

1920x1080
I reinstalled on SSD and turned the settings down. AA at 2x, pp and dust off, small unit sizes, no grass. Still runs my gpu hot unfortunately :(

did you turn vsync off?

[BRICKEDUP420]

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

1920x1080
I reinstalled on SSD and turned the settings down. AA at 2x, pp and dust off, small unit sizes, no grass. Still runs my gpu hot unfortunately :(

did you turn vsync off?

Lol I never use v-sync

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

did you turn vsync off?

Lol I never use v-sync

haha ok great, it was just responsible for someone else's heating issues.

and, to clarify, the performance is fine for you? locked at 60fps? it's just that it runs hot?

[BRICKEDUP420]

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Lol I never use v-sync

haha ok great, it was just responsible for someone else's heating issues.

and, to clarify, the performance is fine for you? locked at 60fps? it's just that it runs hot?

Yeah, I played a full battle before I noticed the heat issue. Aside from that the game ran completely fine for me. I wasn't seeing any lag or fps drops. Heat may even be an issue on my end I'll post again if I resolve it.

[StrategosGames]

Originally posted by BRICKEDUP420:

Originally posted by StrategosGames:

haha ok great, it was just responsible for someone else's heating issues.

and, to clarify, the performance is fine for you? locked at 60fps? it's just that it runs hot?

Yeah, I played a full battle before I noticed the heat issue. Aside from that the game ran completely fine for me. I wasn't seeing any lag or fps drops. Heat may even be an issue on my end I'll post again if I resolve it.

thanks!