Olvega is Hostile

[JohnMcIronballs]

Hello, as the title says, Olvega is hostile to me. On my first visit there. This has *always* happened to me when playing 7.62 and I thought it was normal. Happened in Blue Sun as well. Problem is, if I remember correctly, attacking the hostiles in Olvega can make the Forest Camp hostile which is not ideal since I'm trying to keep neutral relations with everyone.
I'm somewhat following a let's play from youtube and was very surprised when he simply walked into Olvega, I immediately went there and bam, every guard is hostile (their names are "Fighter" and "Commander" so they are not bandits but the actual Olvega defenses). Only the troops seem hostile, not the people thank the Gods. I've searched google and found some people asking about this happening to them but no actual answers.

I'm trying to figure out what I did that's different from the let's player and found only one thing: Raul Mangosta which I saw hanging around Olvega in his videos. The let's player warned Raul and let him go, I always warn him for the rebel password and when he turns to run away I shoot him in the back. Maybe that's coming back to bite me in the♥♥♥♥♥ I don't know, I found an old forum let's play where the guy straight up killed Mangosta and the first rebel encounter and Olvega was not hostile to him.

I've tried wearing rebel and indian uniforms to no avail, is there another type of uniform? They do seem to dress different.
The dogtags say I'm neutral to everyone. The only good news (I hope) is that I tried killing one of the hostiles and the dogtags stayed the same. But if I remember the bug correctly the forest camp would be hostile to you and you couldn't buy peace from Calderon, so maybe the dogtags aren't a good indicator.
Since I just finished Willi Krauf's mission, going back to the Raul mission is not ideal. I'm going to try clearing the village (maybe sending my militia even) and see what happens, especially with the Forest Camp.

Am I missing out on anything or breaking any future missions by having them hostile (and having to kill them)? Does anyone know anything about this happening? The internet has nothing on this.

My apologies for the wall of text, just trying to be complete with the information I have. If I find anything else in my tests I'll post here, if anything it might help future people with the same problem.

[Shane]

Killing Mangosta aggros Olvega and the rebels in general.

[Vollinger]

You pretty much got it, it's Mangosta.
If you speak with him and choose to let him go, he and his two buddies run all the way to Olvidad and hang around there, so attacking him at that point counts as attacking an upstanding Olvidad citizen, even if he's still technically on Santa Maria map.
Killing him through the dialogue option is fine, "accidentally" blowing him away when you first enter the town and get attacked by local bums is fine too, but shoot the poor prick in the back in cold blood and everyone suddenly thinks you're a bad guy.

You can get Olvidad uniforms from the toy seller in Campecino, maybe smugglers in other towns. Disposing of the rebel scum and taking the town over will break the guerrilla questline, if you're forced to shoot the rebel leader in Olvidad.
Or try killing some reasonable amount of them, leave sector, then buy peace. To force the game to update global relations scripts.

[JohnMcIronballs]

Thank you for the responses, so it turns out the "bug" I've been having all these years has been inflicted upon me by myself, all while congratulating myself on being so smart by shooting the guy in the back. I feel so smart right now you wouldn't believe.
Ok, so taking all you said into account I went and did some testing. First, no one sells the uniforms, heh, so I went into town at night (combat started immediately even when no one was seeing me), shot a Fighter with a silencer, took his uniform and ran. Coming back with the uniform they aggro instantly.
I tried to clear and capture the town and found out some things: If I leave the town clear but uncaptured and return some days later I have to fight all over again. Killing every hostile soldier does *not* make the Forest Camp my enemy. That makes it a problem because I cannot buy reparations from Calderon.

Considering this my question becomes, does this break the game if I plan on siding with Blanco? Especially if I actually capture the town? I'm enjoying so much playing both sides while building up my independent effort.

Or maybe I'll just have to go back to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Raul and replay pretty much 75% of what I've done all over again. Oh boy... All those hours...

[Vollinger]

I mean, it's a nice, pragmatic solution in most other fights. You can simply shoot the gang boss in Villarado when he comes to negotiate with fifty of his closest advisors, wordlessly execute any of the Head hunter/Mechanic mission targets, out-ambush Jesus, backstab Cyrus Lond if you're quick enough. Only Mangosta has this infinite supply of psychic buddies who are as forgiving as your average Pashtun warlord.
Seems like a bug that didn't get fixed by HLA devs for whatever xardcore-related reason.

Once you have a staffed base, some militia reserves, a money source (or maybe an urgent need for a money source) you're good to let the war start, can't stay neutral forever.
Simon pretty much ignores Olvega, Government asks you to conquer it, Guerrillas to protect it. Hard if you have both sides shooting at you.
No other missions apart from a really short fetch quest with no reward and a really long one. Starts in Cali Cantinos, pick up contraband from barkeep in Olvega, rewards you an option to order exotic weapons from the CC dealer.
That one also spawns random police checkpoints in the open zone, for the rest of the game.

[JohnMcIronballs]

Yes, it was because of the mission in Cali-Cantinos that I was going there.

Since it won't break anything other than the Guerrilla questline (and possibly government) but I'm going with Blanco, I have captured it (basically after killing the hostiles I talked with the mayor and hired 25 people for the militia) and have had no problems since, I can return at will and the rebels are fine with me for now.

Thank you so much for your help. Who knew shooting people in the back could have such negative consequences?

And for all future people that google this problem like I did I leave this: If Olvega / Olvidad is hostile to you, you are in the right thread. And it's all Raul Mangosta's fault.