Ending Spoilers discussion

[JRawr]

So the reason real Majima came to Hawaii was cause of the elixir that can cure any illness and extend your life. Apparently he did it so he can give it to Kiryu Kazuma, in the post credits scene Majima and Saejima visit Kiryu at the hospital and it ends with a to be continued. Does this mean Kiryu is coming back for another game?

[DesertRecluse]

That means that Kiryu will live forever, so they can release Yakuza games with a šhitťy story until they go bankrupt or something.

[Baca]

i mean..., kiryu always come back after his 'last' game

[Dat]

oh nah majima couldnt get his hands on the elixir the old man made sure of that throwing the rocks on the sea the only thing the game give a hint is that he wont die from the cancer but its 80% he wont be in fight shape anymore

[Sentient_Toaster]

Kiryu's not necessarily coming back for another game. The only thing that the ending demonstrates re: that is he's not finished dying yet, a few months later than he was initially expected to die.

For me, the ending raises a more important question: if Majima knew about the treasure and arranges for Shigaki to head to Nele with the intent to organize a search, why does Shigaki freak out at the prospect of Majima and Saejima arriving? After all, in this scenario, they already know about the secret.

[armycat23]

If anything, the ending had a somber tone with Majima saying that living forever wouldn't be good. To me, it seemed like Kiryu was on his deathbed.

That being said, I think RGG really did shoot itself in the foot in two ways over the years.

1. Having such large time gaps between games, namely excused by prison time for both Kiryu and Ichiban. Kiryu's 10 years in prison really didn't mean much to the overall plot. The stuff that went down during that time could have happened over 2 years or less and it would still be believable because it really only detailed his sworn-brother's turn to a heel.

Yakuza 1 could have shown Kiryu as a 18 year old and by the time of Yakuza 6 he would be 38. By Yakuza 5, he could be about 35 and Haruka would be old enough to still do her idol-thing.

This would keep Kiryu as the MC for a much longer time and still give Ichiban his time to shine as well.

2. Giving Kiryu cancer. I think it's needless. It really serves no purpose at all. If they wanted to move on from Kiryu, they could write-in him living somewhere near Haruka peacefully.

[Dat]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

Kiryu's not necessarily coming back for another game. The only thing that the ending demonstrates re: that is he's not finished dying yet, a few months later than he was initially expected to die.

For me, the ending raises a more important question: if Majima knew about the treasure and arranges for Shigaki to head to Nele with the intent to organize a search, why does Shigaki freak out at the prospect of Majima and Saejima arriving? After all, in this scenario, they already know about the secret.

shigaki freaked bcs he didnt knew they both knew about the treasure lol majima only knew about the elixir and he prob didnt even say why they were there he just told everyone to go there

[jävla pajas]

Originally posted by armycat23:

2. Giving Kiryu cancer. I think it's needless. It really serves no purpose at all. If they wanted to move on from Kiryu, they could write-in him living somewhere near Haruka peacefully.

The only reason they gave him cancer was so he had a reason to fight turn based

[Shinneh]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

Kiryu's not necessarily coming back for another game. The only thing that the ending demonstrates re: that is he's not finished dying yet, a few months later than he was initially expected to die.

For me, the ending raises a more important question: if Majima knew about the treasure and arranges for Shigaki to head to Nele with the intent to organize a search, why does Shigaki freak out at the prospect of Majima and Saejima arriving? After all, in this scenario, they already know about the secret.

That's not the plot hole, Shigaki was already there, Majima just came "to babysit" them, which he didn't want to do, until he found the legends. The plot hole is that Saejima knew about this reason, but is completely clueless about it when he shows up.

Apparently it's because the main game and post credits scene had different writers.

[JON.BKK]

I think they've conducted an "experiment" to see how it can go from there (Yakuza 8) and milk the franchise as much as possible. Lo and behold, Kiryu was still THE man in Infinite Wealth and I personally had a blast playing Kiryu again.

No matter how old he gets, he's carrying the franchise. He's the face of Yakuza. There was an overall resounding positive feedback from the community. Even with the "cancer spin", this game and the elixir would give Kiryu a "2nd new chance" or rebirth if you will. My gut feeling says that RGS will not entirely cut off Kiryu out for now because there's still a lot of opportunity.

Even if the Yakuza setting is fully milked and dried out, there are plenty of story opportunities beyond. Politics and corruption, military industrial complex, foreign and domestic agents, Japanese cult etc.

On the sidenote, I'd love to play as Akiyama in a main game again. Regardless of any speculation and theories - looking forward to the next RGS game ^^.

[Mr_Purple]

They are keeping Kiryu on a life support (literally and metaphorically) just in case next big Kiryu-less Yakuza release (Pirate is a smaller scale spin off so it doesn't count) tanks in sales.