You are ruining the game by making it too easy

[Happeh]

I have been playing bloons for what seems like a year but possibly less. I play a lot because it is a challenging game that forces me to pay attention and not make any mistakes. I have been playing so much I have a pretty good sense of what all the towers do and what must be placed on specific maps in order to beat them.

Over the past week or three I realized I was waltzing through maps that I know gave me a lot of trouble before. There was no challenge and I was actually so bored I stopped playing for awhile.

It seems to me that the money generation must have been patched to give what feels like triple money over what used to be generated. I might have 50,000 left over at the end of a game now, when before I could barely beat a map with whatever money I had. I think the increased money generation popped up around the time I noticed some advertisement about totem games and/or when the game started providing free agents and towers every day.

I understand you probably want to cash in by marketing bloons to weaklings who cry if they can't beat a game while they simultaneously watch TV and eat dinner by making it trivial to win by giving them 5 times as much money as it takes to beat a map, but you are ruining the game for people that like the challenge of the game.

If you have must increase the in game money generation to bring in all those casual gamers to increase your profits, could you please include a switch somewhere that retains the original money generating numbers so that people that enjoy challenging games will continue to find the games challenging?

Thank You

PS. Those free agents and towers you force on people every day are also very annoying. I feel like I am cheating when I have to use a free tower I never asked for and don't want.

[CyanAquaTeal]

I've been with bloons for a couple year longer then you, and never have i once read a patch note or felt like money generation was increased, if they did do that, i'd assume it would have been quite a big blow up amongst the popular/big players/youtubers.

have you turned double cash on maybe, by mistake? unless a single bloon layer gives more then one cash, then nothing has changed.

[Wroang5]

There is nothing that changed the money generation with the game, unless you count regen farming, which is not in the flash version(or if you take what the above person said). If you find this game too easy, then you should challenge yourself. Saying the game is too easy and just playing like an advanced track on hard is no excuse.

You can make your own challenges, such as using only Apprentices to Beat the Eye on Medium, or only Buccaneears/Glue Gunners on Castle on easy. This game is what you make of it. This game as so many different things you can do with it.

The normal tracks are too easy? Well if you haven't tried playing the other modes, do them. Some of them are really challenging and requires some real tactics. Short-lived is really challenging, and will not be conquered by non-premium users who don't know what they are doing. (BTW if you use a guide for the tracks and you are saying it's too easy, that is not acceptable.)

Just as the above person said, if you accidentally put on double cash, then that is why.

Still bored? Try Mastery Mode. If you don't know what it is, it doubles the rewards of the map, but all bloons are one rank up(extra bloons provide no extra cash) on the map you played it on. Natural ZOMGs have double health as well. Mastery Mode may not seem hard on some tracks, but when you do it on Impoopable on a track like Tar Pits, you would be sorry. Also, try doing NAPSFRILLS on Mastery Impoppable. Not so easy.

As I said in the last paragraph, try doing maps NAPSFRILLS(No Agents, Premiums, Specialties, Farming, Road Items, Lives Lost, Selling. Doing this can make a map go from a cakewalk to a nightmare if it is the right track. (Oh yeah, if you are winnning and using a huge amount of farms, that may be why. Farms actually break the game and are essentially a way to make a map slightly easier, but on some maps, farms are actually required.)

Free towers and agents bugging you? When you enter the game, just place then sell the tower. It is that easy.

I could just sit here and rant on how the game can be difficult, but I don't know how you would react to this, still saying the game is easy or trying it out, but I won't waste my too much time on someone I don't know. This game is what you make it and should be molded to fit your suitability, which is why I find this an awesome game and I will probably never get bored of it. :) (Which is also why I don't really care abotu how difficult it his, I just find it fun to pop these little gremlins :P)

[Happeh]

Just checked. Double money is not on.

I never use agents.

I know the game gets patched and changed because of things like totem games or boss bloon games, and I would swear I make more money with the same amount of money generators now, than I ever have before.

I would also swear that somewhere along the way spike factories were nerfed. I used them alot way back when I first started. Now I hardly ever use them because they are useless compared to other towers.

[CyanAquaTeal]

Originally posted by Happeh:

Just checked. Double money is not on.

I never use agents.

I know the game gets patched and changed because of things like totem games or boss bloon games, and I would swear I make more money with the same amount of money generators now, than I ever have before.

I would also swear that somewhere along the way spike factories were nerfed. I used them alot way back when I first started. Now I hardly ever use them because they are useless compared to other towers.

are you talking about farms, or money from popping bloons?

[Silky]

I'm doing the normal grind without double money and it's a ♥♥♥♥♥, it's hard as hell that's having me go back to the phone version.

[Happeh]

money farms.

I am willing to believe I might have just become better at the game and it feels easier because of that reason.

[CyanAquaTeal]

Originally posted by Happeh:

money farms.

I am willing to believe I might have just become better at the game and it feels easier because of that reason.

you are correct in that money from farms has been increased, but the amount of banana's that spawn have been decreased over time.

in flash, each banana is worth 20, but more are produced.

In bloons monkey city, the spin off its 30.

In mobile battles its 60.

and now in steam its 40.

[Narcoleptic Marshmallow]

Originally posted by zdragonkillah:

you are correct in that money from farms has been increased, but the amount of banana's that spawn have been decreased over time.

in flash, each banana is worth 20, but more are produced.

In bloons monkey city, the spin off its 30.

In mobile battles its 60.

and now in steam its 40.

No, nothing was increased on decreased over time.

On flash you get 4 bananas per round on un-upgraded farm, each worth 20, total 80.
On Steam/Mobile you get 2 bananas per round worth 40, total 80. It's different because tapping a phone screen to pick bananas is harder than dragging your mouse cursor over them.

No idea about BMC or Battles because I don't play those, but there's no difference otherwise in how much cash per farm you get.

[CyanAquaTeal]

Originally posted by Elly:

Originally posted by zdragonkillah:

you are correct in that money from farms has been increased, but the amount of banana's that spawn have been decreased over time.

in flash, each banana is worth 20, but more are produced.

In bloons monkey city, the spin off its 30.

In mobile battles its 60.

and now in steam its 40.

No, nothing was increased on decreased over time.

On flash you get 4 bananas per round on un-upgraded farm, each worth 20, total 80.
On Steam/Mobile you get 2 bananas per round worth 40, total 80. It's different because tapping a phone screen to pick bananas is harder than dragging your mouse cursor over them.

No idea about BMC or Battles because I don't play those, but there's no difference otherwise in how much cash per farm you get.

That's what I was saying, over all the games to prevent lag they have lowered the amount of bananas spawned, but increased the pay out per banana.

[Maestro]

I spend a lot more time playing BTD Battles then playing this because I am way too bored with this game because its way too easy....I only check back in now and then to see the new update, new event

Mastery should be unlocked after every map is beaten on imppopable instead of collecting every badge.....I still did not unlock mastery and don't feel like spending that much time grinding for it

[CyanAquaTeal]

Originally posted by CrazyPenguin:

I spend a lot more time playing BTD Battles then playing this because I am way too bored with this game because its way too easy....I only check back in now and then to see the new update, new event

Mastery should be unlocked after every map is beaten on imppopable instead of collecting every badge.....I still did not unlock mastery and don't feel like spending that much time grinding for it

You only need to collect every badge on beginner tracks, for everything above you just need to complete a single medal.

[Maestro]

Originally posted by zdragonkillah:

You only need to collect every badge on beginner tracks, for everything above you just need to complete a single medal.

still way too much time consuming

there is a lot of beginner tracks + you need to repeat them until you get all badges