Still AI art?

[MrDowntempo]

I enjoyed the demo of the previous version, but didn't pick it up because I was put off by the overuse of bad AI art. Is that still the case here? Or are those pieces (mainly the portraits) getting drawn by humans?

[Lokaror]

The art should be the same. Its funny, because IIRC on the previous version they did not disclose that was the case.

[skrub]

on the store page it says events and character design is AI generated

[shady-merchant]

Still AI trash.

[Astaroth910]

I dont mind whether its AI or anything, i like what i see and i am having fun playing. the game itself is well worth the price

[Stealth]

The art is very nice looking I don't know what you're talking about. The only real problem - it's very limited. There definitely should be much more of it, especially characters art.

[AlKappaccino]

I don't get it either, does it matter that it's AI generated? Artstyle is fine and could use more variety but it's also hard to find creative minds for such things, so I'm okay with focusing on other things while doing such work with the help of generative AI models.

[Zero]

It makes zero difference if it's AI or not. Don't gate-keep game developers just because they can't do everything.

[MrDowntempo]

There are a number of things to consider. Firstly, AI art is always more generic and less creative. It's trained on data and tends to average out that data to be the most generic form of that data. AI doesn't have a real logical brain either, its just linear algebra and statistics. That's why thing like finger look weird, some outfits don't make sense, somethings that should be symmetrical aren't, and somethings that shouldn't are, all because of the perspective. Things a human could easily foresee, but an AI is basing their image on different works from different perspectives and can't figure out how the pieces should fit together in the real world, but only how they statistically are put together in their mass of examples.

But more importantly, it is vastly more often than not, trained on data that the AI didn't have the rights to. That means that artists that created works are in no way compensated for their work being used to train an AI. I don't blame the users of AI, but the developers of models that use data they don't have rights to. It's putting talented people out of work. You would good original art in game, you need to hire creative artists, not use AI and call it a day. Right now, gaming voice actors are striking because of this. Their jobs are in jeopardy, and the quality we'll get if we lose their skills will be sub par.

I'm not anti-AI, and use it myself (LLMs, not visual art) as a way to research and search for things that are harder to search for in traditional search engines. An example use case would be looking up something you don't know the name for, or the proper search terms to find via google, but asking an AI can put you on the right path. And I think AI images have their uses too, either as inspiration or concept art, or for projects you're not getting looking to sell. I got no problem with using midjourney to draw a portrait for your DnD character for instance.

That's my take. Don't @ me. I've unsubbed from this discussion.

[Zero]

So you unsubbed from your own discussion because you don't like what people have to say. Please try to act like an adult.

Normal artists train themselves on things they don't own the rights to. They either copy the style or make straight-up fan-art to hone their skills. They don't own those characters, either.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Astaroth910:

I dont mind whether its AI or anything, i like what i see and i am having fun playing. the game itself is well worth the price

This.
Also, this really doesn't look bad.

[nobalkain]

Your going to have to accept people are going to use AI, and its going to keep getting harder to tell what is AI and what isnt. The Genie is out of the Bottle, no putting it back in. You have every right to be against it yourself, but you cannot expect most people to agree with you. Most people dont care HOW a Product is Made, they just care about the End Result.

[Tyler the inflator]

Originally posted by Zero:

It makes zero difference if it's AI or not. Don't gate-keep game developers just because they can't do everything.

No one says they should be able to do everything. When they can't draw, they could hire an artist. A ton of artists would love to draw something for a game

[Tyler the inflator]

Originally posted by AlKappaccino:

I don't get it either, does it matter that it's AI generated? Artstyle is fine and could use more variety but it's also hard to find creative minds for such things, so I'm okay with focusing on other things while doing such work with the help of generative AI models.

It is definitely not hard to find people for that. Quick search and you would instantly find a ton of people willing to do art for a game

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by Maggolando:

Originally posted by Zero:

It makes zero difference if it's AI or not. Don't gate-keep game developers just because they can't do everything.

No one says they should be able to do everything. When they can't draw, they could hire an artist. A ton of artists would love to draw something for a game

Yes, but AI does it Fast and Free. Fact is most people dont care if the Art is AI as long as it looks good enough. They care even less in a Game, because its how a Game PLAYS that is the most important.

Artists will still be able to find a living, as long as they are VERY Good, its the Mid to Lower Artists that are going to be out of a Job. Those Artist that continue to find Work will be better off as their Work will become a Luxury. Just like how having someone Handcraft Furniture sells for a lot compared to Mass Marketing Furniture.

You cant put the Genie back in the Bottle. AI is here and Companies Big and Small are going to use them.

[Vis]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by Maggolando:

No one says they should be able to do everything. When they can't draw, they could hire an artist. A ton of artists would love to draw something for a game

Yes, but AI does it Fast and Free. Fact is most people dont care if the Art is AI as long as it looks good enough. They care even less in a Game, because its how a Game PLAYS that is the most important.

Artists will still be able to find a living, as long as they are VERY Good, its the Mid to Lower Artists that are going to be out of a Job. Those Artist that continue to find Work will be better off as their Work will become a Luxury. Just like how having someone Handcraft Furniture sells for a lot compared to Mass Marketing Furniture.

You cant put the Genie back in the Bottle. AI is here and Companies Big and Small are going to use them.

Most people are put off by it not just by the look but also by the nature of it. Don't just 'most people' us when your a** is the unethical one and wants to feel better about supporting insanely scummy practices.