Haven & Hearth

Haven & Hearth

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Gadsen Nov 28, 2024 @ 9:07pm
Free to play?
What's the catch?
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NZTrooper74 Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:06pm 
none, good game ...very deep mechanics , study or you will likely miss heaps and not get full fun from it.
Downside .. can be very grindy and some long time sinks... growing crops for example is 24hr + depending on what your growing and if you have bees etc growing a tree 4-7 days apparently, getting coal or charcoal .. 3 days . So yeah grindy and time sinks But if you enjoy building base up and deep mechanics very fun.

good first tip is don't just eat everything, check out how food and FEP works and don't let too big of a gap grow between your stats by eating.
Free so give it a try , but do check some tutorial first or you will struggle at start with what to do and not do.

Hope that helps some
McFuzz Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:33pm 
The catch is that the game's depth and hostility nature makes it hard to pick up for newcomers. That's almost literally it. Most of the negative reviews are "I like it but I got killed"

On the topic of the 'catch' of free to play. Verified accounts and Subscribed accounts earn more LP, but even if they didn't, new players still wouldn't be able to keep up with 10+ year vets. So like, it's pay to win but you wouldn't win even if it wasn't lol.
Last edited by McFuzz; Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:33pm
Sax Nov 28, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by McFuzz:
The catch is that the game's depth and hostility nature makes it hard to pick up for newcomers. That's almost literally it. Most of the negative reviews are "I like it but I got killed"

On the topic of the 'catch' of free to play. Verified accounts and Subscribed accounts earn more LP, but even if they didn't, new players still wouldn't be able to keep up with 10+ year vets. So like, it's pay to win but you wouldn't win even if it wasn't lol.

This sums it up pretty well.
The catch is you will get treaded on by long time players or die in the first 5 minutes to a boar while trying to figure out how to light a fire.
MacDuh Nov 29, 2024 @ 12:29am 
You don't always get what you want. You can't always win.

Enjoy the journey itself.
[KzU] Valgar Nov 29, 2024 @ 2:30am 
If it's free you are the product.
Here you are the product of the devs sadic game :)
It's a very good game, you don't have to pay at all to enjoy it and reach the end game.
Like others said, others players are the weak spot in many cases.

It's one of the few games that are loved by their developers more than the cash they can grab from it, and it's rare enough to notice it (some example are Hollow Knight, Outerwilds, Stardew Valley, etc...)
Unbeliever Nov 29, 2024 @ 2:31am 
Subscribers have an advantage over regular players, as they have 100% increased convenience.

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Full and unlimited gameplay
One extra row of inventory space
+30% character development rate
+100% convenience

>Convenience increases the speed of various civil actions in the game. Currently, this includes:

Crafting items;
Building constructions;
Chopping trees, wood blocks and sawing boards;
Fishing;
Paving;
Digging;
Butchering; and
Chipping stones.
Yuno Gasai Nov 29, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Unbeliever:
Subscribers have an advantage over regular players, as they have 100% increased convenience.

>
Full and unlimited gameplay
One extra row of inventory space
+30% character development rate
+100% convenience

>Convenience increases the speed of various civil actions in the game. Currently, this includes:

Crafting items;
Building constructions;
Chopping trees, wood blocks and sawing boards;
Fishing;
Paving;
Digging;
Butchering; and
Chipping stones.
Well with amount IQ that you posses - every people ( and probably MOST OF THE MONKEYS) have advantage over you.
Yet , that doesn't stop you from posting ♥♥♥♥ on forums.
Collateral damage Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by Yuno Gasai:
Well with amount IQ that you posses - every people ( and probably MOST OF THE MONKEYS) have advantage over you.
Yet , that doesn't stop you from posting ♥♥♥♥ on forums.
You mad bro? The game is subscription based, deal with it.
Nyasha Dec 3, 2024 @ 1:59am 
There is no catch. Although I suspect that the developers are simply feeding off the suffering and struggle of the players, and it is not a matter of materialism.

You pay. One way or another :P
Last edited by Nyasha; Dec 3, 2024 @ 2:01am
kindred Dec 3, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
The catch? You are just food for big factions have fun with, and while you will be safe after you make a pallisade you will be unsafe every time you need to leave for hunting or even mining.
Last world a big group started raiding my base for no reason, they even managed (very likely) to use a bug to destroy my boats and dock, a thing I thought was not possible.
You can play while big factions allow you.
also you kinda need to pay, check the market posts, you need to buy 10 usd tokens to be able to trade with players
Skrain Dec 3, 2024 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by kindred:
The catch? You are just food for big factions have fun with, and while you will be safe after you make a pallisade you will be unsafe every time you need to leave for hunting or even mining.
Last world a big group started raiding my base for no reason, they even managed (very likely) to use a bug to destroy my boats and dock, a thing I thought was not possible.
You can play while big factions allow you.
also you kinda need to pay, check the market posts, you need to buy 10 usd tokens to be able to trade with players
Nope, you do not need to spend any money on this game to trade. I'll assume you've misunderstood something, and not that you're just flat out lying to people.
Sax Dec 3, 2024 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by kindred:
also you kinda need to pay, check the market posts, you need to buy 10 usd tokens to be able to trade with players
No you don't, nobody is forcing you to trade in game tokens, it's just that people do trade with them, but not solely with tokens, for certain things like discontinued cosmetic hats.
McFuzz Dec 3, 2024 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Saxnôt:
Originally posted by kindred:
also you kinda need to pay, check the market posts, you need to buy 10 usd tokens to be able to trade with players
No you don't, nobody is forcing you to trade in game tokens, it's just that people do trade with them, but not solely with tokens, for certain things like discontinued cosmetic hats.
I will literally trade him whatever he wants for silkmoth eggs, I am too lazy too collect em and too afraid of RNG to breed em lol
AmdaMtt Dec 4, 2024 @ 10:01am 
you absolutely do not need to pay real money to trade, i never did.

I'll say a one-time buy is definitely good enough to support this game for the fun it's given me these years, but you'll NEVER reach endgame by yourself. If the degenerate pvpers get their wish, one of the only peaceful/newbie welcoming factions will never get a foothold again (to be fair some of them were insufferable and deserved a beatdown).

The risk of losing your main is ever-present and sucks the fun of the game completely for me, so i either play on late-game servers which are deserted except for some hermits who are cool, or start early and mostly afk farm until said lategame.
kindred Dec 6, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
well, to be clear, you don't need to pay for trading, but you only be able to trade with "noobs", you won't be getting the good stuff, for instance, I guy I know asked 8 tokens for a q170 axe, you can see on the foruns people selling an axe q150 for 4 tokens too and the more the game goes more you will be locked out of trading for good quality items.

and you kinda need the good q stuff to stay safe, i'm a noob too and I have close to 500 hp now, I believed this was a good amount for now but I just saw I guy from WB be killed with the same amount of hp, looks like people are able to 1 shot you now, my point is that without trading I can't make good q armor and gear, good q food and all those things.

oh sure, you can do bot work and boil 10 stacks of river pearl mussel to get 1 or 2 pearl, by current prices if you gather 200 pearls you can get a good axe.
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