*Spoilers* Is the strange catch for longbox trade on Demeaux Island infinite?

[Uncle Nastyfingers]

If so finding lockboxes is nothing anymore, just stock up on cheap strange catches from Irem and sit around Demeaux until you have as many as you need.

[.//slayer]

Aside from it requiring a SAY and not being available 100% of the time, yeah. But I feel like the base game already has a lot of places/opportunities for SAY exploits. Like the infinite stat growth in Wither.

[Uncle Nastyfingers]

Well damn, despite hundreds of hours sunk into the game I never got around to fleshing out what's going on at Station III. I always assumed it must be something cool and potentially very rewarding due to the difficulty in acquiring lockboxes, but it's absolutely trivial now. 50 echoes and a SAY per lockbox.

Well done whoever at Failbetter implimented this trade...severely diminished this quest line imo

[bridgeofblues]

Originally posted by .//slayer:

Aside from it requiring a SAY and not being available 100% of the time, yeah. But I feel like the base game already has a lot of places/opportunities for SAY exploits. Like the infinite stat growth in Wither.

how?

[.//slayer]

Originally posted by bridgeofblues:

Originally posted by .//slayer:

Aside from it requiring a SAY and not being available 100% of the time, yeah. But I feel like the base game already has a lot of places/opportunities for SAY exploits. Like the infinite stat growth in Wither.

how?

Farm SAYs near Wither to get the "restaurant" event where you are offered to try various seafood. It has approximately 30% chance of appearing, so fairly high, and you can also farm lifebergs for free resources while you wait.

The hardest "hearts" option in the event gives you +2 iron, mirrors and hearts on success without a drawback. You need about 100 hearts to have a 50% chance of succeeding, and obviously, the more you do it, the more hearts you get and more often you succeed on later attempts.

[YetiChow]

Originally posted by Fresh:

Well damn, despite hundreds of hours sunk into the game I never got around to fleshing out what's going on at Station III. I always assumed it must be something cool and potentially very rewarding due to the difficulty in acquiring lockboxes, but it's absolutely trivial now. 50 echoes and a SAY per lockbox.

Well done whoever at Failbetter implimented this trade...severely diminished this quest line imo

Actually, lockboxes are really only useful for a limited time; and you can often get a couple for free while completing other quests.

The story is very cool, and can potentially reward you with a legacy item (although there are other ways to get that item) and various other rewards. You'll also likely need to get at least part of the way into the Station III story if you want to complete the Princepts of Coral story, although there might be another way to require that particular resource I'm thinking about...

Once that story is over, lockboxes become just another somewhat valuable trade-in opportunity. While you're completing the story, though, finding those lockboxes anywhere else can be rather dangerous and/or expensive; and it's a hassle to go out to Irem for (AFAIK) the only other reliable way to acquire lockboxes when you need them.

[Wlerin]

If memory serves you only need one longbox to open the Station III story, and another for the Heartmetal Ingot. For the rest of it you only need SAY (though maybe more longboxes help if you botch some early tests).

[Kerredai]

Other longboxes increase your Favor with the Acolyte and let you advance the story, although there *are* other ways -- like rolling Pages to write songs for her -- to gain Favor. Longboxes also get you some money when you drop them off, though, and don't need Something Awaits You to trade in, so they're a really good way to advance.

[Wlerin]

Originally posted by Kerredai:

Other longboxes increase your Favor with the Acolyte and let you advance the story, although there *are* other ways -- like rolling Pages to write songs for her -- to gain Favor. Longboxes also get you some money when you drop them off, though, and don't need Something Awaits You to trade in, so they're a really good way to advance.

If you have high enough stats when you start the story you can get all the necessary favour to progress to the next step in the first event chain. But yeah.