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It's not Saints Row 5
No Co-op (the way combat is built, it shouldn't be a thing anyway)
It's not Saints Row 5
No Customization (They're all premade characters, including some of the Saints, but this is an alternate reality from one of the Gat Out of Hell endings)
These things had people tearing into the game and giving it poor reviews WELL before the game even came out, and they've never stopped digging into it for these reasons since, like it's going to change anything.
No, on to the legitimate concerns:
There were (at least at the beginning, I don't know now, after all the patches) some framerate and graphics issues.
A lot of the underground layers are VERY similiar, if not an outright copy.
The story is a bit cliche, but it's basically a team superhero story from the 80s. GI Joe, dirty jokes edition.
Outside of the storylines (and side stories), there's a collectathon, but not much else except for some minor repeatable quick missions on the world map, which is actually a decent size. (Though, some say it's smaller than previous).
I find it fun, but I did find that factor wane when there was constant DLC coming out for an extra cost. They did bring in other "Saints": Kinzie, Gat, Pierce, Oleg.
Now as for being a Saints Row game, it is not. It is a part of the "universe", but there are no actual 'Saints'.
And since they never get it, or rather there is always someone who doesn't, there is always someone b****ing about something. This game just happens to have more disapointed people than the average, but mostly because they had expectancies they shouldn't have had. The very first trailer for this game said "a game that is NOT Saints Row", and still people wanted it to shoehorn it into a Saints Row game. We can't really fault the devs for people's missplaced expectations.
The game obviously uses the same art style, gameplay style, writting and humor. Or at least tries, because it fails at EVERY SINGLE THING. And were failing from a get go. When it got released it became obvious just an mediocre game with lack of optimization (and visuals are nothing to write home about either, despite of heavy system requirements). People HOPED to get another bombastic 'Volition' game, but got carbon copy of Saints Row. And bad one. People wouldn't care if the game was different from SR but played great. Instead they got average game that plays like Saints Row.
Why are you keep asking? Are you hoping someone is going political? No need to, the game is just mediocre at best. Poor optimization, empty (yet colorful) world where you can't do anything outside repetitive missions, no customization, humor always fall flat, boring "wanna be smartass" characters, godawful driving, the story isn't good even to laugh at and probably one of the worst soundtrack I have heard (some stupid k-pop dubstep ♥♥♥♥ or something like that).
Also the poor understanding of the italian language made the game implies that Joule has an incestous relationship with her father. But that's something only italians would notice.
So, you didn't like it, I did, so I'm wrong and lmying to myself ? Thank you, I'm sure I would never have figured what was happening inside my own head without that profound insight !
Same art style ? Yeah, maybe a bit. Seoul doesn't look like Steelport at all, though, so it's hard to compare.
Same gameplay, really ? Maybe if you play drunk... Can't say I tried that. Obviously, a game with flying vehicles, ammo and ressources management, a single character to play... Is exactly the same as a game in which you switch between characters, have unlimited ammo from the start and can't fly at all. Obviously. And that's just a few exemples. That games DOESN'T play like Saints Row. Unless if you consider every game with vehicles in an open world setting with missions to gather herte and there plays like Saints Row, but that would apply to GTA, Watch Dog, Just Cause, etc.
As for the writting and humour, I'll agree, though. I'd say Agents of Mayhem is a bit less over the top than SR4, which in my opinion is a good thing. SR4 had, fr me, the same flaw as Borderlands 2 : great game, but the humour and "let's see how far we can go" had been cranked one notch too high for my liking.
What can I say, maybe I'm just not bothered too much by the rough edges here and there as long as I get my fun. People bashed Volition hard when Red Faction Armaggeddon came out, saying it wasn't a good game (which is entirely wrong), and most of all, it didn't ressemble a Red Faction Game since it differed from Guerrilla. Well, I loved Guerrilla too, but that one was the one not ressembling a Red Faction game. Red Faction 1, 2 and Armaggeddon are li,near, non-open-world games. Guerrilla wasn't. Blaming them form doing a "not Red Faction" game while they were returning to the roots of the series was stupid. Or ignorant, maybe.
Anyway, my point is, comparing a game that tries something different to a previous game just because some elements are common (and of course they are, it's made by the same persons !) doesn't make sense. If that game was indeed SR5, ok, that would make sense. That still wouldn't mean it's a bad thing to try something different.
Yes, the game is imperfect. Lots of things could be improved, technically and gameplay wise. But then again, the first SR left alot to be desired. The first 2 GTA were so bad no one even remember they existed. Trying something new doesn't always pay off, it doesn't mean it should be prevented. But hey, we live in a world were EA and consorts can pop a new copypasta of last year's game every year and get praised for it...
I'm not lying to myself, thank you. The game has flaws, but I enjoyed it enough to level every agent to 20+20. A game I don't like get removed from my drive after a few hours, refunded if possible, but I generally won't clock more than 5 hours on it. I have 80 or so on Agents of Mayhem.
So, please keep in mind that just because someone likes something you don't doesn't mean they lie to themselves. Maybe I have bad taste though, that is entirely possible. I mean, I don't like SR 1 and 2, and any GTA bores me to death ;)
That I can agree on, though. The songs for the trailers were stupid but fun, but the in-gamle music is awful. There are radio selection keys in the options, but they do nothing. I ended up muting the music in the options, and listening to my own playlist. Please, Volition, never do that again. This alone could justify bad reviews ^^'
I mean if its just a shooter, that works, why is it than bad ?
so how long is gameplay ? you play for 5 hours and game is finished or you can play more ?
Ok, I'll give it a try.
- Bugs : not so many. The game is very poorly optimised, though, even if the latest big patch helped a bit. It DOES have troubles starting sometimes, but that's the only major bug I can think of. You'll need a lot of tinketing with the options, and maybe a special profile in your GPU drivers, to have it run smoothly. Keep in mind that the review that say how god-awful a technical wreckage the gam is were written before that patch though. It's still a wreck, but not Titanic-level kind of wreck anymore.
FYI, I run it on a FX 4350@4.4 GHZ, 8 GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 (3 GB), and it's running around 40-45 FPS, 60 FPS in closed locations, but sometimes has a lag spike and falls to 15 for a second or two. And I have customized the option to keep a good balance between looks and smoothness.
- Crash : Sometimes. Rarely, though.
- Lack of content : it all depends on your definition of content. The game has infinite content, as every side mission will regenerate. You will ALWAYS have Legion lairs to raid, outposts to take over, cars to steal, trucks to bomb and whatnot. However, this kind of content is repetitive, and can be considered grindy, boring, or "lacking" if you chose simply not to take it into account. Personnaly, I do some Legion lairs occasionnaly, take over the outposts wwhen available, but entirely left aside the cars stealing, bombing and whatnot. Races are fun occasionnaly, though.
As for the main menu, the story will take more than 5 hours to unfold. I'd say at least 10, maybe 15, but it's hard to tell, I haven't tried to give it a go all at once. It's pretty basic stuiff, en avil organisation has taken over most of the world and a team of not-so-heroic characters is gonna kick their bottom. Some characters are amusing, if you like really bad humour (as i do). However, don't expect the story to tie nicely at the end. Spoilers : you kick the bad guy's arse, but he's one of several. End of the game.
So, yeah, it's a shooter, it works, but some gameplay elements make it repetitive (just like ANY open world game, they all have some grindy / collection aspect to them, and Saints Row were no exception), it's technically WAY below the level we could have expected from Volition (I assume they wanted to do something very ambitious, but didn't have the means nor time to make a fully stable engine), it has bad humour (which is NOT a bad thing in my opinion), and well, it's not Saints Row and many people will not forgive it for that.
I haven't written a review yet, but for me, it's the lack of mobility.
I would have liked to have been able to fly around the environment a bit.
From my perspective, it feels like a downgraded version of SR4. Having said that, I don't think that it was never really supposed to be a replacement for the traditional SR. Otherwise, they would have called it SR5.
It actually feels like it should have been released as more of a DLC pack, than an actual standalone game.
You end up with a Volition game without the stuff that made them popular.
It's like having a FPS made by Valve, that look like Half-Life, even same characters (as DLCs lol) but it's not Half-Life, just a generic FPS.
High expectations, low results.
People asked for coop / customisation, nope, get DLC instead.
Poor optimisation; look at the game, look at the requirements.
"Yo it's 2k18 bro' everyone run on a NASA computer no optimisation needed, right?"
-Generic dev
The game is mostly a succesion of disappointments than an actual bad game IMO.
Because its just a shooter. A game can run smoothly, no bugs, got content, but if you have no fun to play it because it's uninteresting, then the game become pointless, don't be fooled.
People wouldn't recommend an unfunny / uninteresting game even if it's fine on technical parts.
True, there is a distinctive lack of martian environment, destructible walls and buildings, and angry miners... Oh wait, you didn't mean Red Faction, right ? ;)
I can only agree on that, though. This game isn't boring, really. I didn't find it boring, at least. Still, if you're looking for a squad-based shooter, there are better options on the market.
I think I like Agents of Mayhem for the same reasons I liked Bulletstorm : it's "a shooter that works", with some interesting aspects, sometimes inovative ones, some quirks too, and a completely assumed terrible sense of humour :)
That point was purely speculative based on people's feedback and does not reflect my opinion, I believe you can take that sarcasm and unnecessary condescendence back :/