Did you tried sohei?

[The Tunnel Ratencio]

now that he is available for steel have you given him a try? if so what are your thoughts?

I did and Wow! Wow! Wow! i get it now why before today i havent seen anyone playing him, in one sentence he is slow, really slow, not only his running speed but also his attacks and gameplay as a whole. In 1v1 i guess its not that bad? baiting guardbreaks is all i could do to make him somewhat viable though.

He can be fun but truly he can really be 2 things, a threat(once he gets the instakill ready) or just a slow moving hero with less damage than everyone else in the game but with a good enough minion clearing zone attack.

[Ventus]

played him a couple of matches in siege and its been a pain tbh. i deal 0 dmg and never get to my oneshot stage i cant even finish people off most of the time because lights deal like 6dmg.
Also i think he has a 16 dmg heavy finisher which is a joke and some moves are awkward to get into and are predictable

[Ventus]

Originally posted by Jowain:

To the Pre-orders and paid-off shill Youtubers (looking at you Crow Squire! Or whatever that sellout calls himself): How does it feel to have been ripped off?

Already thought this hero needed a full on rework day one, now that I've bought him with steel that thought remains even stronger; he's a bootleg Shaman with the forced gameplay of pre-rework Jormungandr.

Mothersucker did not beat the Katashi hero-skin, he got his butt spanked super hard, makes perfect sense why this idiot calls the literal farm tools his carrying for "weapons" dude is so weak he had to go around beating up random farmers and lumberjacks for his tools, what is he a Mordhau character?

Just rework this sorry sack of farm tool stealing crap already; he's without a doubt one of the worst if not THE worst hero they've released.

gotta agree with you there. i bought him as a preorder because i had some leftover steam funds because he seemed interesting but actually playing him makes me wanna leave the game and just play someone else its such a pain playing that guy

[The Tunnel Ratencio]

yeah i guess the low damage makes sense if all he uses are farming tools for the finishers, which sucks, all of them except maybe the 2 top ones, side lights have nothing special and the 2 side heby finishers? ugh awful, the bleed one can only be helpful when you have an actual shaman on the team but the other one? its just weird and no reason to do them besides getting them souls

[🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧]

Considering he's a joke to fight against, nah won't waste time on him

[RuhtsaH]

usefull only in breach

[Ventus]

Originally posted by Ruhtsah:

usefull only in breach

not even that tbh. i cant do ♥♥♥♥ in a 1v2 situation ever. my attacks deal 0 dmg and even if i get a bash i spend most of my time building up a one shot to kill one of my targets

[Happopupu]

Imagine paying real money for this Hero.

[AXIOS FINALE]

rep 5 sohei here. hes a mediocre character but i think its to makeup for the oneshot. he n eeds a little more but not a full rework imo i just wish allies couldnt interupt the one shot animation that ♥♥♥♥ is annoying

[Viper Vapor 419]

Originally posted by Jowain:

To the Pre-orders and paid-off shill Youtubers (looking at you Crow Squire! Or whatever that sellout calls himself): How does it feel to have been ripped off?

Already thought this hero needed a full on rework day one, now that I've bought him with steel that thought remains even stronger; he's a bootleg Shaman with the forced gameplay of pre-rework Jormungandr.

Mothersucker did not beat the Katashi hero-skin, he got his butt spanked super hard, makes perfect sense why this idiot calls the literal farm tools his carrying for "weapons" dude is so weak he had to go around beating up random farmers and lumberjacks for his tools, what is he a Mordhau character?

Just rework this sorry sack of farm tool stealing crap already; he's without a doubt one of the worst if not THE worst hero they've released.

sounds like a skill issue. Git Gud.

[OwO]

i tried him with a few matches of breach and hoenstly had a lot of fun with him
but he did feel really restricted on his moves, specially when the dev stream said ''oh he'll be really usefull in ganks'' when in reality if you get in a gank, uoi dont have much to work with, and if YOU get ganked, you dont have a lot to get out of it, due to his moves not being too strong and slow enough for even a noob to parry you

[ᴆᴀʀɢᴀṣ]

I have only faced him alot. So far my feeling is that if you're good at the game, you can get away with him against lower skilled players, but if you're not doing like good feints, light parry and globally playing very defensive, you're helpless. The few Sohei I met which were strong players, would have smoked me on better heroes.

[FlyingRedFlag]

In my experience trying to play him optimally...
You have to use your chain zones hitstun to safely enter his unblockables else you can be interrupted or traded with. So you must treat the zone as a pseudo unblockble its self.

His stamina is not super either. So you'll likely have to pause after your first successful chain to regen and be forced on the defensive.

His damage is extremely low.
So optimally you'll zone from a gb. If you're doing things right, building souls is NOT your main objective. By the time you've killed them you should have all souls ready for the next fight. So that'll be fun? Right? Not really.

His heavy ranges are terrible so good luck trying to get meaningful external damage in for team fights. Trying to get the bash off in a team fight can be rough as usually you'll be in the center blocking, parrying, and trying to trade with that zone. You're a heavy with poor range, remember?

His damage needs to be buffed.
His seven force strike needs to be nerfed.
And his side hitboxes need to be adjusted. Most of them are too small.

[Neo]

Gotta be one of the lamest heroes I've ever fought against in matches. All they do is fish for GBs, which is easy enough, but unnecessarily draws fights out and makes them unfun. Also, his chain zone hits behind him for some horrible reason.

Originally posted by Jowain:

Originally posted by Viper Vapor 419:

sounds like a skill issue. Git Gud.

Remeber crying for reworks for Conqueror, Shugoki, Jormungandr and so on?

I agree.
Conqueror's original rework was nice. Get rid of the bad zone, but he gets chain options. People whined and he sucks now.
Shugoki was only problematic when he had passive superarmor and could GB you off of any non-double light. Once he got his soft-feint hug rework, he was a normal Hero. It was also around that time Valkyrie was gutted.
Jorm wasn't even that bad, people just didn't know how to manage stamina very well.

[Antik]

Very fun to play, but you can feel they were scarred to release him strong. There definitely needs to be a better way to get souls other than GB, forward dodge attacks have terrible range, main power is unusable in big fights or anti ganking, so you're better off with just healing which is sad.

[Nekra]

After playing this guy for a bit, I got to Rep 3 and just wasn't having fun anymore. The one shot was fun at first, but the heavy finishers are all garbage and you can dodge them pretty much anytime you want and its an easy dodge, hard feint to GB is also awkward for a character that basically needs GB to get souls in a fight.

Damage is super abyssmally low for how slow some of these attacks come out. Inability to do the super damage on anything other than a dash forward bash is really bad since its easily the most telegraphed thing in the game, its his only way to access the damage, so once he has all souls you can literally just dash out of every dodge forward because if you get GB'd, who cares you just take like a 20 damage zone and its all good.

Should be able to soft feint heavy finishers to GB, should be able to do the 7 Soul Strike on a GB or a bash (Or at least something, he needs SOMETHING other than dash forward bash)

Other than that dude kinda feels like a joke in 4s, interrupted by everything, die before doing anything meaningful, hes a fun meme but thats pretty much where the fun stops. Have to get feat level 3 and get all souls to feel almost like a normal hero. HIs pressure is just absurdly bad, and his 1vX is basically nonexistent.

Cool concept, but the execution is really poor IMHO