Deflect ?

[T-70 X-Wing]

Hi
Warden main here i have decided to change things up a little and give my rep 1 PK a little new cosmetics so i can expose her redhead (non sexual). So i try her out on the hero tactics section of the tutorial while i was practising the deflect. I have couple of questions.

1- is deflect timing same as the parry or the crushing counter timing? IE to pull this off correctly do i wait until the attack indicator glows ? or is there a different trick to this rather than the CCS or parry ?

2- in what circumstances attempting to deflect is more viable ?

And yes i know how stupid it sounds that being in this game this long and still not knowing the most integral kit in an assasin's moveset but indulge me i main warden but playing a single hero over and over again gets lonely

[Scrambled onions]

I don't play assassin either and I'm not even sure if this is what you're asking, but I do know that deflects are better for counter attacks

[Lilly Satou]

Originally posted by Scrambled onions:

I don't play assassin either and I'm not even sure if this is what you're asking

shut up then

as per the For Honor Infohub (https://forhonorinfohub.com/generalinfo):
The input window is identical between a Parry and a Deflect, except for the fact that I-frames can lessen the Deflect window

Originally posted by Scrambled onions:

but I do know that deflects are better for counter attacks

What's better is situational. Unless you can pin with your deflect, it could be better to just parry if your opponent has HA

[Scrambled onions]

Originally posted by Лилли Сато:

Originally posted by Scrambled onions:

I don't play assassin either and I'm not even sure if this is what you're asking

shut up then

as per the For Honor Infohub (https://forhonorinfohub.com/generalinfo):
The input window is identical between a Parry and a Deflect, except for the fact that I-frames can lessen the Deflect window

Originally posted by Scrambled onions:

but I do know that deflects are better for counter attacks

What's better is situational. Unless you can pin with your deflect, it could be better to just parry if your opponent has HA

Knowing more about a topic doesn't give you the authority to be rude. As for your other comment about it being situational, no ♥♥♥♥, everything in any game is situational in some way.

[MrPibbs]

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

Hi
Warden main here i have decided to change things up a little and give my rep 1 PK a little new cosmetics so i can expose her redhead (non sexual). So i try her out on the hero tactics section of the tutorial while i was practising the deflect. I have couple of questions.

1- is deflect timing same as the parry or the crushing counter timing? IE to pull this off correctly do i wait until the attack indicator glows ? or is there a different trick to this rather than the CCS or parry ?

2- in what circumstances attempting to deflect is more viable ?

And yes i know how stupid it sounds that being in this game this long and still not knowing the most integral kit in an assasin's moveset but indulge me i main warden but playing a single hero over and over again gets lonely

I could be wrong about this (apologies in advance if I am, I really should know this) but I'm pretty sure deflect timing is tighter than the parry window for SIDE attacks. This is because your dodges will have iframes and dodging at the very earliest parry timing will just dodge the attack.

However, I think TOP attacks are the same as the parry window, as the dodge itself has no iframes. This makes top attacks easier to deflect than side attacks. Another exception is side undodgeable attacks, which I also think have the same timing as a parry, and as a result undodgeables are also easier to deflect.

Deflecting is often better than parrying. It's usually safer (dodging is safer than parrying, and having a dodge attack available makes the opponent have to guess about 3 options rather than 2), and gives WAY more damage than most heavy parries.

PK in particular gets literally double the damage from a deflect as opposed to a heavy parry (24 vs 12). Not only that, she also gets bleed out of it which makes her offense much scarier. If you're in a 1v1 and you think an opponent is going to throw a blockable heavy through, deflecting is usually the best choice. Another PK specific thing is she has a very short recovery from the deflect itself, and on high recovery moves she can deflect - GB like Berserker, which is neat.

You do need to watch out for characters with hyperarmor followups, as you'll likely trade if you go for a deflect. Usually you'll barely lose the trade, but your opponent will have his offense going as opposed to you being able to attack.

[🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧]

As a PK main

you need to dodge before the attack lands so it's better to look at the weapon rather than the UI indicator since it at times is a bit wonky

Deflect is only viable is you want to inflict bleed on the target to make your heavy finisher unblockable and faster or get a free GB

Other wise a simple dodge side heavy or heavy parry into double light is more viable