"You see Varangian, I'AM the full block. I'm the one who counters"

[HELLCAT]

-Black Prior to Varangian guard

[765]

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

My brain rotted reading this, LITERALLY

[BigJ]

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

How can someone throw words at everything and still be wrong every Time.

[MrPibbs]

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

Bruh

Someone with 800 hours should not have this many laughable moronic takes. What is wrong with you?

[Amon]

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

Dude please please please stop.

[765]

You all too noob to know he is the only hero who gets hit-staggered in his all-guard? xD

Without the tools it grants access to like the flip or the unblockable it's weaker than all the other permanent full-guards.

[765]

Originally posted by MrPibbs:

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

Bruh

Someone with 800 hours should not have this many laughable moronic takes. What is wrong with you?

So you have more than 800h and still don't know this? Embarrassing...

[Amon]

BP's bulwark stance: 200ms entry speed, 400ms recovery cancel, 300ms exit speed it is already faster than Conq and Warlord

[765]

Originally posted by Amon:

BP's bulwark stance: 200ms entry speed, 400ms recovery cancel, 300ms exit speed it is already faster than Conq and Warlord

And if he didn't get hit-staggered in it, or better yet staggered the attacker instead like the other ones do at least on lights, the full-guard by itself would be a lot better.

[Amon]

Originally posted by 765:

Originally posted by Amon:

BP's bulwark stance: 200ms entry speed, 400ms recovery cancel, 300ms exit speed it is already faster than Conq and Warlord

And if he didn't get hit-staggered in it, or better yet staggered the attacker instead like the other ones do at least on lights, the full-guard by itself would be a lot better.

Any black prior that would let you hit them while in full block and not bulwark counter is a horrible black prior... His full block is not for blocking, it is to access his bulwark counter.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by 765:

You all too noob to know he is the only hero who gets hit-staggered in his all-guard? xD

Without the tools it grants access to like the flip or the unblockable it's weaker than all the other permanent full-guards.

A side effect of been able to transition to full block from block...no decent bp is going to let you hit them, lol

[765]

Originally posted by Amon:

Originally posted by 765:

And if he didn't get hit-staggered in it, or better yet staggered the attacker instead like the other ones do at least on lights, the full-guard by itself would be a lot better.

Any black prior that would let you hit them while in full block and not bulwark counter is a horrible black prior... His full block is not for blocking, it is to access his bulwark counter.

I agree but my point that his full-guard alone is among the worst still stands.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by 765:

Originally posted by Amon:

Any black prior that would let you hit them while in full block and not bulwark counter is a horrible black prior... His full block is not for blocking, it is to access his bulwark counter.

I agree but my point that his full-guard alone is among the worst still stands.

So a full guard:
- That allows movement.
- Regens you with feats.
- Has the easiest transition, even straight from block.
- Deals with all unblockables disabling anyone that hits you.
- Makes you invulnerable, to the point only precise timing bashes can get you.
- That has an extremely safe (100ms gb vul) unblockable access to.

Please explain to me how this is worse than conq, warlord, ara, valk or katla

[Amon]

Originally posted by 765:

Originally posted by Amon:

Any black prior that would let you hit them while in full block and not bulwark counter is a horrible black prior... His full block is not for blocking, it is to access his bulwark counter.

I agree but my point that his full-guard alone is among the worst still stands.

It isnt really worse as you claim it tho. You cannot say it is the worst when you use it wrong to begin with.

Originally posted by BigJ:

Originally posted by 765:

I agree but my point that his full-guard alone is among the worst still stands.

So a full guard:
- That allows movement.
- Regens you with feats.
- Has the easiest transition, even straight from block.
- Deals with all unblockables disabling anyone that hits you.
- Makes you invulnerable, to the point only precise timing bashes can get you.
- That has an extremely safe (100ms gb vul) unblockable access to.

Please explain to me how this is worse than conq, warlord, ara, valk or katla

I believe he is trying to say its worse because it staggers the BP when someone hits it with lights or heavies, but even then, that just means the BP is using his full block noobishly inefficient and thus its the players fault and not the BP's... You cannot play a hero wrong then blame it on the kit

[765]

Originally posted by 765:

What are you talking about? His full block is one of the weakest.
He gets smacked around in it like a pinata.

The flip is his strong move.

Since I have to remind you again as if my comment wasn't right there.

Does he get "smacked around" in it? Yes.
Even though it's partially just visuals, I never said it's useless, but not the "god-like" full-guard I feel OP is making it out to be.

Is the flip the part that makes it "god-like"? Also yes...