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Shadstar 18 ENE 2020 a las 10:53 p. m.
How to change region(no oce games)
Hi,

I am located in Australia, I am looking to come back to play the game however I can not find a single game....

I have green NAT and have been sitting in 10min+ queue before stopping and trying a different day to find a game.

Fast forward a week of trying I can still not find a game. I do not care if I have 150ms at this point, how do i find a game even if its in asia or the usa?
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Stret 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:21 a. m. 
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Stret 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por High Heresiarch:
Publicado originalmente por God Of Conquest:
Please don't find a way. I don't want to fight 150 ping.

This. The community should not be sacrificed for the sake of one individual.

its not a big sacrifice. Not bigger than not being able to play the game you bought at all. Dont be egoistic.
York 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:50 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
Publicado originalmente por High Heresiarch:

This. The community should not be sacrificed for the sake of one individual.

its not a big sacrifice. Not bigger than not being able to play the game you bought at all. Dont be egoistic.
sacrifice the enjoyment of potentially 7 other people for one person sorry stret but i think we all would pick to sacrifice one person over 7.
this is the opposite of being egoistic he values the enjoyment of 7 people over just one
Stret 23 ENE 2020 a las 9:35 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The iron warsmith:
Publicado originalmente por Stret:

its not a big sacrifice. Not bigger than not being able to play the game you bought at all. Dont be egoistic.
sacrifice the enjoyment of potentially 7 other people for one person sorry stret but i think we all would pick to sacrifice one person over 7.
this is the opposite of being egoistic he values the enjoyment of 7 people over just one

thats like saying " i'd rather have someone's arm degloved than 7 other people getting small cuts on theirs "

Those other 7 people can at worst find or wait for another match. Not like all of their matches are like this, only a minority of them. 1 player wont permanently ruin anyone's experience.

Meanwhile, the guy literally CANT play the game at all
Última edición por Stret; 23 ENE 2020 a las 9:36 a. m.
High Heresiarch 23 ENE 2020 a las 9:55 a. m. 
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Publicado originalmente por High Heresiarch:

No, it's not a problem for an entire region.

If you can't find a game in your region, it obviously means nobody wants to play in your region. Therefore, it's your problem alone. I'm sorry, but this is how it is.

I think you are misunderstanding what a region is. If there are no players in a region to form a game of course it is a problem for the entire region. There is no negative to allowing people from Australia to join up with with those in Asia if the the matchmaking can not find players locally.

Worst case we have 120ms and they have 20ms and they get an increase in their overall player base whilst still having low ping. It is at our disadvantage to be matched there however the disadvantage outweighs the positives such as the game making $ from its oceanic player base.

And finally please play the game before you start posting saying it will have an impact on you, you having zero steam account levels does not hold much weight in an argument my friend.

It so happens I am steam level 7 and have (as of right now) 1938 hours played in For Honor.

As per your own standards, my reasoning is quite solid and irrefutable, but I don't use the same tools as you for my arguments: I use something a bit more sophisticated, it's called 'logic' and it's much better than 'steam levels' and 'playing time' for purposes of making assessments of reality. You should try it sometime.

Here, let me give you a taste on how this 'logic' stuff works by applying some of it on your argument about regions:

If there are not enough players in a region to form a game, then there is no problem for that region because there are not enough players that want to play a game in that particular region. If no players want to play, there is no reason for a game to be formed. See? It's easy!

Another example: Ubisoft realizes a particular region does no have enough players to form a game, and considers joining the remaining players of that region with another region. Ubisoft, however, knows that such an action will hinder a greater number of players because of lag issues, so Ubisoft LOGICALLY decides against it.

Although logic has been used by the majority of mankind for a few millenia now, that 'steam level' rethorical method of yours might get you some results on convincing Ubi to join your region with another, more populated one. Send them an e-mail telling your steam level and demanding a rework of the matchmaking system. Be sure to drop by later and let us know how it went.
York 23 ENE 2020 a las 10:50 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
Publicado originalmente por The iron warsmith:
sacrifice the enjoyment of potentially 7 other people for one person sorry stret but i think we all would pick to sacrifice one person over 7.
this is the opposite of being egoistic he values the enjoyment of 7 people over just one

thats like saying " i'd rather have someone's arm degloved than 7 other people getting small cuts on theirs "

Those other 7 people can at worst find or wait for another match. Not like all of their matches are like this, only a minority of them. 1 player wont permanently ruin anyone's experience.

Meanwhile, the guy literally CANT play the game at all
let me ask you a question ever heard of the trolley problem?
its pretty similar to this very problem in that it shows the different mind sets we have i am of the opinion that yes while it sucks he cannot play the game then that's his issue not the issue everyone else must bare the burden for what gives him the right to lessen the enjoyment of others?

"1 player won't permanently ruin anyone's experience" it is not about just the one its about the precident that would be set when its suddenly all right to go onto servers which you will cause problems for since your ping would make combat unenjoyable suddenly it becomes a question on where does the goal post lie?
one lag switcher does not ruin anyones expirence permanently so why should we go after them?
shower speedrunner 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:37 p. m. 
I still have trauma about Jorm with 120 ping so maybe he should just play PvAI
Stret 24 ENE 2020 a las 8:09 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The iron warsmith:
Publicado originalmente por Stret:

thats like saying " i'd rather have someone's arm degloved than 7 other people getting small cuts on theirs "

Those other 7 people can at worst find or wait for another match. Not like all of their matches are like this, only a minority of them. 1 player wont permanently ruin anyone's experience.

Meanwhile, the guy literally CANT play the game at all
let me ask you a question ever heard of the trolley problem?
its pretty similar to this very problem in that it shows the different mind sets we have i am of the opinion that yes while it sucks he cannot play the game then that's his issue not the issue everyone else must bare the burden for what gives him the right to lessen the enjoyment of others?

"1 player won't permanently ruin anyone's experience" it is not about just the one its about the precident that would be set when its suddenly all right to go onto servers which you will cause problems for since your ping would make combat unenjoyable suddenly it becomes a question on where does the goal post lie?
one lag switcher does not ruin anyones expirence permanently so why should we go after them?

just find another lobby if it bothers you that much

you have to wait like 5 extra minutes to find a match, but not like the other guy will get any by waiting for 3 hours
York 24 ENE 2020 a las 10:07 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
Publicado originalmente por The iron warsmith:
let me ask you a question ever heard of the trolley problem?
its pretty similar to this very problem in that it shows the different mind sets we have i am of the opinion that yes while it sucks he cannot play the game then that's his issue not the issue everyone else must bare the burden for what gives him the right to lessen the enjoyment of others?

"1 player won't permanently ruin anyone's experience" it is not about just the one its about the precident that would be set when its suddenly all right to go onto servers which you will cause problems for since your ping would make combat unenjoyable suddenly it becomes a question on where does the goal post lie?
one lag switcher does not ruin anyones expirence permanently so why should we go after them?

just find another lobby if it bothers you that much

you have to wait like 5 extra minutes to find a match, but not like the other guy will get any by waiting for 3 hours
ah so thats your answer to everything
even if its not your fault YOU must be the one who has to suffer for it nice logic stret maybe i lack the 20000IQ required to understand your way of thinking or maybe i am the insane one who says that the 7 are more valued then the 1.

it is not the 7's fault his region is dead and he has changed region to remedy it at their expense.
so why must they be the ones who suffer for it?

in fact with this bountiful logic i think we should not auto kick people with 164 ping since that would mean they can't play the game forget the problem it causes for other people that one player must obviously take priority of the masses of that region in terms of enjoyment
Stret 24 ENE 2020 a las 10:59 a. m. 
its not the 1 guy's fault his region is dead. Does that means he have to suffer because of it, or does that mean he should go to another country?

auto kick for arbitrary ping numbers has always been a questionable topic.
JKArtorias 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
its not the 1 guy's fault his region is dead. Does that means he have to suffer because of it, or does that mean he should go to another country?

auto kick for arbitrary ping numbers has always been a questionable topic.
Its not his fault his region is dead but no one enjoys fighting someone who's attacks are invisible.

Recently there's been a player who i find in US EST servers who has 100 ping all the time. I'll respect their privacy and not say there name. But they play Orochi and has invisible attacks.

Every time they were in my game i luckily had them on my team... Except for once, its not fun for the 4 people who has to fight that.

So yes you have to punish the few for the many. In this case its 1-4.

Because their region is dead. They can't play the game, that's how it should work. You should ALWAYS be kicked for having over 100 ping. Cause having over 100 breaks the entire games combat system.
Stret 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:40 a. m. 
first of all, over 100 ping doesnt necessarily mean that. I have played at that number just be fine before, and i have fought people at that number just fine before.

the game is pretty good at compensating lag, and most issues are caused by inconsistent connection, unless its a really large latency number.
Stret 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:40 a. m. 
also

> but they play orochi

imagine thinking orochi has much faster attacks than standard in 2020
Última edición por Stret; 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:41 a. m.
High Heresiarch 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:43 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
its not the 1 guy's fault his region is dead. Does that means he have to suffer because of it, or does that mean he should go to another country?

auto kick for arbitrary ping numbers has always been a questionable topic.

This has to be asked: since you are showing so much concern about this, did you friend up the OP already? If you do, you guys can group up and he can play with you in your region. You'll get a supernaturally fast teammate as a bonus. Have you done something to help him out already? It's within your grasp...



JKArtorias 24 ENE 2020 a las 11:43 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Stret:
also

> but they play orochi

imagine thinking orochi has much faster attacks than standard in 2020
I don't think he has much faster attacks. I just use it to help describe it. Cause he had no animations.

Remember i main Orochi.
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