THE NEW PIRATE SKIN IS SLAP

[HELLCAT]

remind me of shay from AC rogue and the cape remind me of ezio auditore

[СТЕПАН БАНДЕРА]

Is Goody

[Viable_Golem4375]

Agreed, it looks really good. Now if only we could make Pirate as good as the skin she got.

[Mysath]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Agreed, it looks really good. Now if only we could make Pirate as good as the skin she got.

No, you will take your generic (whatever material you have) colored dragon pirate and you will love it!

[Jowain]

It's quite sad to have cool skins for Warden, Kensei, Black Prior and now Pirate, then we have the travesty that is Raiders...
Love this skin though, she finally has a good hat to wear lol

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Agreed, it looks really good. Now if only we could make Pirate as good as the skin she got.

By all means tell me more, for as much crap I give you (swear I have nothing against you personally, just disagreements) I'm still interested in seeing most characters being decent on some front. My take is to give her a bash (same for the heroes who still don't have one) from either a dodge or a heavy soft-feint, but that seems to be the answer to everything these days.

Really don't like how this update made it so some heroes that are "counter attackers" no longer are allowed to counter attack. Weird how it doesn't seem to affect Knight heroes.

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by Jowain:

It's quite sad to have cool skins for Warden, Kensei, Black Prior and now Pirate, then we have the travesty that is Raiders...
Love this skin though, she finally has a good hat to wear lol

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Agreed, it looks really good. Now if only we could make Pirate as good as the skin she got.

By all means tell me more, for as much crap I give you (swear I have nothing against you personally, just disagreements) I'm still interested in seeing most characters being decent on some front. My take is to give her a bash (same for the heroes who still don't have one) from either a dodge or a heavy soft-feint, but that seems to be the answer to everything these days.

Well mainly the issue is that top level just reacts to everything due to poorly thought out animations. Even beyond that her damage numbers are all over the place (like ffs 14 damage on the forward dodge heavy) and she feeds endless amounts of revenge both because her main ganking tool (walk the plank) feeds more revenge than damage for some reason and her pistol blasts (where like 1/3 of her damage comes from) are bashes that feed 30 revenge.

Generally what Pirate needs imo is a full blown rework because in her current state shes a disaster mainly due to the devs seemingly trying to give her every mechanic in existence rather than just make her good at something and sticking with it.

[Jowain]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Well mainly the issue is that top level just reacts to everything due to poorly thought out animations. Even beyond that her damage numbers are all over the place (like ffs 14 damage on the forward dodge heavy) and she feeds endless amounts of revenge both because her main ganking tool (walk the plank) feeds more revenge than damage for some reason and her pistol blasts (where like 1/3 of her damage comes from) are bashes that feed 30 revenge.

Generally what Pirate needs imo is a full blown rework because in her current state shes a disaster mainly due to the devs seemingly trying to give her every mechanic in existence rather than just make her good at something and sticking with it.

With the Jorm rework being released, this update breaking heroes like Zhanhu and the Lawbriner rework being one of the worst yet, dare we even entertain the thought of a Pirate rework, a hero that isn't very liked in the first place? XD

What would she even specialize in, holding PK upside down and shaking her down for her lunch money?
Wouldn't mind seeing that, Pirate is freaking huge XD

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by Jowain:

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Well mainly the issue is that top level just reacts to everything due to poorly thought out animations. Even beyond that her damage numbers are all over the place (like ffs 14 damage on the forward dodge heavy) and she feeds endless amounts of revenge both because her main ganking tool (walk the plank) feeds more revenge than damage for some reason and her pistol blasts (where like 1/3 of her damage comes from) are bashes that feed 30 revenge.

Generally what Pirate needs imo is a full blown rework because in her current state shes a disaster mainly due to the devs seemingly trying to give her every mechanic in existence rather than just make her good at something and sticking with it.

With the Jorm rework being released, this update breaking heroes like Zhanhu and the Lawbriner rework being one of the worst yet, dare we even entertain the thought of a Pirate rework, a hero that isn't very liked in the first place? XD

What would she even specialize in, holding PK upside down and shaking her down for her lunch money?
Wouldn't mind seeing that, Pirate is freaking huge XD

Ideally I think they should stick with the whole good at 1v1s and in 1vXs thing, this game needs less big orange donut gank characters.

Also the idea of Pirate just picking someone up, flipping them upside down and throwing them is kinda funny.

[Jowain]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Ideally I think they should stick with the whole good at 1v1s and in 1vXs thing, this game needs less big orange donut gank characters.

Also the idea of Pirate just picking someone up, flipping them upside down and throwing them is kinda funny.

Reworked Pirate: Pocket Bomb is replaced with Pocket Shaman, randomly grabbing one out of thin air and yeeting them at the opponent.

It could be either or, but I think have her focusing on being a 1v1 fits a swashbuckling duelist better.

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by Jowain:

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Ideally I think they should stick with the whole good at 1v1s and in 1vXs thing, this game needs less big orange donut gank characters.

Also the idea of Pirate just picking someone up, flipping them upside down and throwing them is kinda funny.

Reworked Pirate: Pocket Bomb is replaced with Pocket Shaman, randomly grabbing one out of thin air and yeeting them at the opponent.

It could be either or, but I think have her focusing on being a 1v1 fits a swashbuckling duelist better.

Agreed. Her current iteration focuses on way too much resulting in her sucking at everything whereas if she was just great for 1v1s she might be useful.

[HowlerYin]

FInaly somone got the reference !!! XD

[Jowain]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Agreed. Her current iteration focuses on way too much resulting in her sucking at everything whereas if she was just great for 1v1s she might be useful.

Playing Pirate is freaking suffering right now, funny enough she feels like a Year 1 hero, despite starting out being somewhat OP on launch.
Funny how they gave a sick skin to a hero that isn't in the best place right now, hopefully there'll be an uptick in complaints at her current state when more start to play her.

I just don't know how to rework her, not without making her a clone of every other reworked hero, neutral bashes, bashes in chains, hyper armor, bleed, all that bs.
There's also the point of why bother in the first place, the developers DO NOT LISTEN to any of us; after Afeera having an infinite wallsplat, letting Jorm out of the TG into the game and now the Lawbringer rework... should even bother and just all play PvE until they stop digging for gold in their own ass cracks?

Literally every "duelist" hero have something like this now... somehow Pirate is the next example in heroes that requires "skill" to play, there are better ones that take the crown of "skill to play", but she's one of them now it feels like, maybe somewhere at the bottom lol
She needs a rework and a buff to her hips and thighs, yum.

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by Jowain:

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Agreed. Her current iteration focuses on way too much resulting in her sucking at everything whereas if she was just great for 1v1s she might be useful.

Pirate is freaking suffering right now, funny enough she feels like a Year 1 hero, despite starting out being somewhat OP on launch.
Funny how they gave a sick skin to a hero that isn't in the best place right now, hopefully there'll be an uptick in complaints at her current state when more start to play her.

I just don't know how to rework her, not without making her a clone of every other reworked hero, neutral bashes, bashes in chains, hyper armor, bleed, all that bs.

Literally every "duelist" hero have something like this now... somehow Pirate is the next example in heroes that requires "skill" to play, there are better ones, but she's one of them now it feels like lol

There's the other issue with Pirate honestly is just how easy she is, like this isn't a Highlander thing where the hero is bad and hard, Pirate is just bad and also extremely low skill, legit the entire character is forward dodge heavy and then walk the plank until they make a correct read on that.

I personally wish they would've done more with her gun than just a bash confirm, it feels like there could've been a more interesting mechanic here lol.

[Jowain]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

There's the other issue with Pirate honestly is just how easy she is, like this isn't a Highlander thing where the hero is bad and hard, Pirate is just bad and also extremely low skill, legit the entire character is forward dodge heavy and then walk the plank until they make a correct read on that.

I personally wish they would've done more with her gun than just a bash confirm, it feels like there could've been a more interesting mechanic here lol.

Easy to learn, hard to master because the higher she goes the more she has to rely on guessing the opponents next light attack and can forget using her dodge cancels because two out of three results in a free heavy from the opponent.

Lawbringers rework should show what we can expect from a "rework" of Pirate, they're not clever enough to make truly unique gameplay kit with her pistol that doesn't go "bash lol".

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by Jowain:

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

There's the other issue with Pirate honestly is just how easy she is, like this isn't a Highlander thing where the hero is bad and hard, Pirate is just bad and also extremely low skill, legit the entire character is forward dodge heavy and then walk the plank until they make a correct read on that.

I personally wish they would've done more with her gun than just a bash confirm, it feels like there could've been a more interesting mechanic here lol.

Easy to learn, hard to master because the higher she goes the more she has to rely on guessing the opponents next light attack and can forget using her dodge cancels because two out of three results in a free heavy from the opponent.

Lawbringers rework should show what we can expect from a "rework" of Pirate, they're not clever enough to make truly unique gameplay kit with her pistol that doesn't go "bash lol".

Pirate rework: add armor to all attacks in her moveset and increase the damage of all attacks by 10.

We have achieved balance.

[Jowain]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Pirate rework: add armor to all attacks in her moveset and increase the damage of all attacks by 10.

We have achieved balance.

Ah yes, instead of Hitokiri "heby on red" we have Pirate "shooty bang bang on red", perfect!