All Chinese Heroes are OP

[Paladin Blue Phoenix]

They are. All of them have some dumb as unblockable that gives them some dumb 500ms light. Don't even compare it to LB's shove, not even close to being the same.

[Hybernix]

Excuse me?

[Just Hitting My Stride]

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

[Paradoxicc70]

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

It's arguable with the monk 400ms Neutral top which means guard has to be top, 500ms undodgeable sides which means it's also a 400ms after guard swap is taken into account. Because it's also undodgeable means functionality wise based on hand placement/movement it's a slippery slope of these two inputs being spammed being "Blockable/Parriable/punishable".

[Gaser]

Originally posted by Paradoxicc70.TV:

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

It's arguable with the monk 400ms Neutral top which means guard has to be top, 500ms undodgeable sides which means it's also a 400ms after guard swap is taken into account. Because it's also undodgeable means functionality wise based on hand placement/movement it's a slippery slope of these two inputs being spammed being "Blockable/Parriable/punishable".

His side lights are not undogble.

[Jedster]

Originally posted by Archmage Blue Phoenix:

They are.

Hahahaha.... No.

[shower speedrunner]

Originally posted by Paradoxicc70.TV:

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

It's arguable with the monk 400ms Neutral top which means guard has to be top, 500ms undodgeable sides which means it's also a 400ms after guard swap is taken into account. Because it's also undodgeable means functionality wise based on hand placement/movement it's a slippery slope of these two inputs being spammed being "Blockable/Parriable/punishable".

Undodgable side light?
My man, this is so wrong.

[Gaser]

Originally posted by In the Name of God. We go to hea:

Originally posted by Paradoxicc70.TV:

It's arguable with the monk 400ms Neutral top which means guard has to be top, 500ms undodgeable sides which means it's also a 400ms after guard swap is taken into account. Because it's also undodgeable means functionality wise based on hand placement/movement it's a slippery slope of these two inputs being spammed being "Blockable/Parriable/punishable".

Undodgable side light?
My man, this is so wrong.

I do hope that you remember this guy.

[There'sNoStringOnMe]

Originally posted by Paradoxicc70.TV:

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

It's arguable with the monk 400ms Neutral top which means guard has to be top, 500ms undodgeable sides which means it's also a 400ms after guard swap is taken into account. Because it's also undodgeable means functionality wise based on hand placement/movement it's a slippery slope of these two inputs being spammed being "Blockable/Parriable/punishable".

400ms undodgeable side lights? Wow man.
Y'know ... go watch a frame check video or something.

[друг (los siento)]

Jiang Jun:Broken ASF
Shaolin: A Bit strong
Tiandi:Just fine
Nuxia:Weaker than the other 3

[minerunknown]

Originally posted by друг:

Jiang Jun:Broken ASF
Shaolin: A Bit strong
Tiandi:Just fine
Nuxia:Weaker than the other 3

JJ would be fine if they fixed the animations
Shaolin imho is one of the most well designed heroes, and i don't disagree with your opinion.
Tiandi is fine, if anything needs some minor adjustments
Nuxia is potentially one of the worst heroes, really depends on peoples hero choice and playstyle.


As for the thread itself, im already sick of responding to the "this is op" or "this is stupid" threads.
Good luck to you guys who keep doing it.

[JKArtorias]

Yes, compare the Wu Lin to Lawbringer. That's a fair comparison. Not.

But yeah they do all have something special and with the Wu Lin. That special thing is something stupid.

Nuxia's traps and Jiang's regen stance are both stupid.

But Jiang isn't anywhere near op. Nuxia could be considered strong due to unreactable combo lights and using the trap to continue your combo and go directly into more combo lights.

Shaolin. Yes i hate em. Despise him. But again he isn't op. Qi stance is really annoying but don't attempt to parry anything from it. You just have to turtle it and parry the lights he'll throw from neutral.

Tiandi is just screaming his name at you while dodge attacking and palm striking. Not op or even super strong, just annoying.

I've made it clear i hate the Wu Lin and would rather Marching Fire march right the ♥♥♥♥ out the game. But don't call them op when they're not.

[shower speedrunner]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

Yes, compare the Wu Lin to Lawbringer. That's a fair comparison. Not.

But yeah they do all have something special and with the Wu Lin. That special thing is something stupid.

Nuxia's traps and Jiang's regen stance are both stupid.

But Jiang isn't anywhere near op. Nuxia could be considered strong due to unreactable combo lights and using the trap to continue your combo and go directly into more combo lights.

Shaolin. Yes i hate em. Despise him. But again he isn't op. Qi stance is really annoying but don't attempt to parry anything from it. You just have to turtle it and parry the lights he'll throw from neutral.

Tiandi is just screaming his name at you while dodge attacking and palm striking. Not op or even super strong, just annoying.

I've made it clear i hate the Wu Lin and would rather Marching Fire march right the ♥♥♥♥ out the game. But don't call them op when they're not.

You should buy the DLC "Remove Fire" when it's out.

[Paladin Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

Unblockable shove that can open you up to a light.

[Paladin Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by In the Name of God. We go to hea:

Originally posted by Spartacus:

Yes, compare the Wu Lin to Lawbringer. That's a fair comparison. Not.

But yeah they do all have something special and with the Wu Lin. That special thing is something stupid.

Nuxia's traps and Jiang's regen stance are both stupid.

But Jiang isn't anywhere near op. Nuxia could be considered strong due to unreactable combo lights and using the trap to continue your combo and go directly into more combo lights.

Shaolin. Yes i hate em. Despise him. But again he isn't op. Qi stance is really annoying but don't attempt to parry anything from it. You just have to turtle it and parry the lights he'll throw from neutral.

Tiandi is just screaming his name at you while dodge attacking and palm striking. Not op or even super strong, just annoying.

I've made it clear i hate the Wu Lin and would rather Marching Fire march right the ♥♥♥♥ out the game. But don't call them op when they're not.

You should buy the DLC "Remove Fire" when it's out.

I am so glad you are here. I agree I would pay for removing fire.

[Gaser]

Originally posted by Archmage Blue Phoenix:

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I don't think any of them have unblockable lights.

Unblockable shove that can open you up to a light.

That's a CC move that guarantees a light attack, not a unblockable light.