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Phi (:< 2018 年 9 月 28 日 下午 12:17
Knight hero with Zweihander or sword and shield?
Hey fellas, a guy from Xbox one here. I was wondering what y’all think of a knight hero that gets a Zweihander or sword and shield? A lot of people I know support the Zweihander idea, so I wanna know what you guys think of these two ideas?
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Yosogoto 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:09 
引用自 minerunknown

Also I remember reading somewhere that the whole knights with swords and shields thing is made up, and most didnt carry shields at all, or if they did it was with a flail. Not sure if its valid or not.

You don't really need a shield if you're covered in plate armor with a padded vest and chain mail under it.


引用自 Spartacus

Its why i want a Scythe. Scythes could do slashes, semi ranged gbs, trip attacks, decent speed and would look different than any other character. It could be a hybrid between assassin and heavy and not be useless. That's why i want it.

I understand that people think scythes are cool, and RWBY only made it worse, but actually a scythe would make a terrible weapon.

The blade is only sharp on the inside edge because of how you're meant to use it. Even if you made a "war-scythe" with a double edge, the curvature of the blade means you need to be closer to your opponent than you actually think to hit them. Hitting someone with the point of the blade is even harder.

Off topic: I find it hilarious that Ruby is actually perfectly suited to using a scythe because her main ability is to be faster than anyone in the whole freaking world, and she could hold the blade out to her side, and just run past the enemy, but she never does that, and the only thing she uses her semblance for is being late to very important events.
最后由 Yosogoto 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:10
H.U.N.K 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:10 
Guys stop talking about realism when you got a knight who glows when he charges at you with his shoulder and a ninja who dissapears nothing about this game is based in realism lol.
Allso I think a warhammer is great idea Id allso like to see a 3 section staff for the wulin faction
Yosogoto 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:14 
引用自 H.U.N.K
Guys stop talking about realism when you got a knight who glows when he charges at you with his shoulder and a ninja who dissapears nothing about this game is based in realism lol.
Allso I think a warhammer is great idea Id allso like to see a 3 section staff for the wulin faction
I think the glowing is not meant to be how the other people in the world see that move. And the shinobi probably just has a huge pouch of really small smoke bombs.

But for real, blunt weapons are the best thing for dealing with armor, and there's not too much of that in the game right now.

I remember kinda laughing at the Marching Fire intro movie, and seeing the Warden recieve a cut on her chest plate, and suddenly there's just blood everywhere and she's dead.
B_Wald 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:33 
引用自 volescu
But for real, blunt weapons are the best thing for dealing with armor

DING

This is why a character with a hammer would be awesome. I know it's a game and all, but every time I see a Warden or LB go down to a Kensei, Oro or Aramushi, I chuckle a bit.
minerunknown 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:40 
引用自 B_Wald
引用自 volescu
But for real, blunt weapons are the best thing for dealing with armor

DING

This is why a character with a hammer would be awesome. I know it's a game and all, but every time I see a Warden or LB go down to a Kensei, Oro or Aramushi, I chuckle a bit.

When the Shugoki rework finally arrives I really hope hes viable. That Tetsubo is just too much fun.
And for the record, if this game was more realistic the knights would actually be the worst faction. At a point in time they were so incredibly cocky and stupid because of their "invincible armor" that you were better off hiring mercenaries to get the job done. Unless we are talking about super-late medieval, in which case the armor was made irrelevant because of the beginning of matchlocks. Too early and no one had this kind of armor. yay history. Partially why I enjoy for honor is because of everyone supposedly portrayed at their peak.

That was a lot longer than it was meant to be.
Axel 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 12:44 
What about a Morningstar or Mace?
Конструктор 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 1:27 
引用自 Axel
What about a Morningstar or Mace?
Conqueror's Flail
AAA 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 1:30 
引用自 Kai_27-
引用自 Haku41184
Now hol up, there's some debate as to the historical validity of the one handed flail

pretty sure it existed, they just weren't commonly used on the battlefield - a "giant hammer" would be far too unwieldy to even consider on a battlefeild, it would be far too heavy and thus slow to be effective, this added on to the fact that it would exhaust its weilder extreemly quickly
have you ever seen a real warhammer? the hammer is small
B_Wald 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 1:36 
引用自 minerunknown
引用自 B_Wald

DING

This is why a character with a hammer would be awesome. I know it's a game and all, but every time I see a Warden or LB go down to a Kensei, Oro or Aramushi, I chuckle a bit.

When the Shugoki rework finally arrives I really hope hes viable. That Tetsubo is just too much fun.
And for the record, if this game was more realistic the knights would actually be the worst faction. At a point in time they were so incredibly cocky and stupid because of their "invincible armor" that you were better off hiring mercenaries to get the job done. Unless we are talking about super-late medieval, in which case the armor was made irrelevant because of the beginning of matchlocks. Too early and no one had this kind of armor. yay history. Partially why I enjoy for honor is because of everyone supposedly portrayed at their peak.

That was a lot longer than it was meant to be.
No worries, it was a good read. I wasn't suggesting that a samurai couldn't kill a knight if they duelled IRL, or vice-versa. The thing is the movesets and animations the game uses. Based on that, the knights would win most often.

90% of the various samurai heroes in-game attack mostly with slashes, which is exactly what plate armor is designed to protect against best. The nobushi and shugoki would actually be best based on the animations they use, nobushi's thrusts aimed at gaps in the plate being the way to go. The tetsubo is basically a Japanese warhammer, the perfect anti-plate weapon.

That also got long :) oh well.
minerunknown 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 2:22 
引用自 B_Wald
引用自 minerunknown

When the Shugoki rework finally arrives I really hope hes viable. That Tetsubo is just too much fun.
And for the record, if this game was more realistic the knights would actually be the worst faction. At a point in time they were so incredibly cocky and stupid because of their "invincible armor" that you were better off hiring mercenaries to get the job done. Unless we are talking about super-late medieval, in which case the armor was made irrelevant because of the beginning of matchlocks. Too early and no one had this kind of armor. yay history. Partially why I enjoy for honor is because of everyone supposedly portrayed at their peak.

That was a lot longer than it was meant to be.
No worries, it was a good read. I wasn't suggesting that a samurai couldn't kill a knight if they duelled IRL, or vice-versa. The thing is the movesets and animations the game uses. Based on that, the knights would win most often.

90% of the various samurai heroes in-game attack mostly with slashes, which is exactly what plate armor is designed to protect against best. The nobushi and shugoki would actually be best based on the animations they use, nobushi's thrusts aimed at gaps in the plate being the way to go. The tetsubo is basically a Japanese warhammer, the perfect anti-plate weapon.

That also got long :) oh well.


They should make an event where everyone fights with fists.
H.U.N.K 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 2:24 
引用自 minerunknown
引用自 B_Wald
No worries, it was a good read. I wasn't suggesting that a samurai couldn't kill a knight if they duelled IRL, or vice-versa. The thing is the movesets and animations the game uses. Based on that, the knights would win most often.

90% of the various samurai heroes in-game attack mostly with slashes, which is exactly what plate armor is designed to protect against best. The nobushi and shugoki would actually be best based on the animations they use, nobushi's thrusts aimed at gaps in the plate being the way to go. The tetsubo is basically a Japanese warhammer, the perfect anti-plate weapon.

That also got long :) oh well.


They should make an event where everyone fights with fists.
One where they had joke weapons would be better like the warden could have a giant fish and the shugo could have one of them sqeaky hammers and the PK could have a knife and fork and so on that would be funny.
Axel 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 3:11 
引用自 Mr. Gunpowder
引用自 Axel
What about a Morningstar or Mace?
Conqueror's Flail

I mean a solid handled Mace, not a Flail.
Axel 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 3:14 
A slicing weapon like a Katana would be useless against plate armour.

IRL Lawbringer would be nearly untouchable by the majority of the cast, as his armour and weaponry is pretty much the pinnacle of design before flintlock weapons appeared.

The knights would be the most powerful faction, they’re the most technologically advanced gear wise and are better equipped. Apart from Gladiator, his armour has too many gaps.
最后由 Axel 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 3:15
incredibilis 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 4:16 
引用自 H.U.N.K
引用自 minerunknown


They should make an event where everyone fights with fists.
One where they had joke weapons would be better like the warden could have a giant fish and the shugo could have one of them sqeaky hammers and the PK could have a knife and fork and so on that would be funny.
They could do it on April Fools
最后由 incredibilis 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 4:16
Axel 2018 年 9 月 29 日 上午 4:29 
引用自 Ammsamdoij
引用自 H.U.N.K
One where they had joke weapons would be better like the warden could have a giant fish and the shugo could have one of them sqeaky hammers and the PK could have a knife and fork and so on that would be funny.
They could do it on April Fools

They’ve already pulled their April Fools prank by saying Cent, LB and Shug are top tier.
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