Hito lvl 1 bash should only guarante a light

[Serimner1]

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[Mysath]

shugoki's dodge bash should only do 5 damages.

[Serimner1]

Originally posted by Riliane:

shugoki's dodge bash should only do 5 damages.

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[Serimner1]

Conqs zone should not allguard

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Originally posted by Serimner1:

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Mate, I'm gonna do the math for you so just listen. Lvl1 bash deals 22, level 3 bash deals 22 as well for hitokiri. For warmonger its 28 damage for lvl3 and 15 for lvl1 which is 21.5 damage in average. Almost identical with hitokiri. For warden lvl1 bash deals 15 and lvl3 deals 27. Which is 21 dmg in average, in line with hitos mixup. These two mixups are easier to access then hitos mixup which is enough to be a excuse for the damage gap.

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Originally posted by Riliane:

shugoki's dodge bash should only do 5 damages.

This is just nonsense, I'm not even gonna explain why it deals 10 damage

[Serimner1]

so make the lvl 3 bash do 28 dmg then

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Originally posted by Serimner1:

so make the lvl 3 bash do 28 dmg then

Yeah that would make sense but, nothing would change. Its the same thing and in this way at least you dont feel like youre playing other bash mixup heroes. Your mixup never slows down and its a very fun to olay as imo. But these number comes with their proper recoveries which means hito has the worst recoveries on her bashes among the bash mixups. You can always get a gb even if you backdodge, level of the bash doesnt matter.

[Mysath]

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

Originally posted by Riliane:

shugoki's dodge bash should only do 5 damages.

This is just nonsense, I'm not even gonna explain why it deals 10 damage

Nah, it makes sense. It's a damn dodge bash
Yeah it might not start anything but it's still a pain and Shugoki only abuses it now
Keep the 10 damages on the headbutt after attacks, but on the dodge, make it 5.
Or just...completely remove the damages from the dodge headbutt, and make it so he can start stuff with it........

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Originally posted by Riliane:

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

This is just nonsense, I'm not even gonna explain why it deals 10 damage

Nah, it makes sense. It's a damn dodge bash
Yeah it might not start anything but it's still a pain and Shugoki only abuses it now
Keep the 10 damages on the headbutt after attacks, but on the dodge, make it 5.
Or just...completely remove the damages from the dodge headbutt, and make it so he can start stuff with it........

Warden, warmonger, conq; they all have dodge bashes and conqs cannot be gbed. It deals 12 damage unlike shugoki...

[Mysath]

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

Originally posted by Riliane:

Nah, it makes sense. It's a damn dodge bash
Yeah it might not start anything but it's still a pain and Shugoki only abuses it now
Keep the 10 damages on the headbutt after attacks, but on the dodge, make it 5.
Or just...completely remove the damages from the dodge headbutt, and make it so he can start stuff with it........

Warden, warmonger, conq; they all have dodge bashes and conqs cannot be gbed. It deals 12 damage unlike shugoki...

their dumb bashes actually do damages? woah.............

[Antik]

This would defeat her purpose as an executioner and turn her into a scuffed Warden.

[Mysath]

Originally posted by Antik:

This would defeat her purpose as an executioner and turn her into a scuffed Warden.

but then, everyone can do executions......so everyone is an executioner?

[Antik]

Originally posted by Riliane:

Originally posted by Antik:

This would defeat her purpose as an executioner and turn her into a scuffed Warden.

but then, everyone can do executions......so everyone is an executioner?

PK gets 1 execution every 3 games and Hito on pretty much every kill.

[Mysath]

Originally posted by Antik:

Originally posted by Riliane:

but then, everyone can do executions......so everyone is an executioner?

PK gets 1 execution every 3 games and Hito on pretty much every kill.

7 games*

[Ash]

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

Mate, I'm gonna do the math for you so just listen. Lvl1 bash deals 22, level 3 bash deals 22 as well for hitokiri. For warmonger its 28 damage for lvl3 and 15 for lvl1 which is 21.5 damage in average. Almost identical with hitokiri. For warden lvl1 bash deals 15 and lvl3 deals 27. Which is 21 dmg in average, in line with hitos mixup. These two mixups are easier to access then hitos mixup which is enough to be a excuse for the damage gap.

This isn't work this way.
You trying to pretend context (mixup) doesn't matter and a stamina usage doesn't matter too.
And in what world heavy with different timing which parry widow you can literally manipulate chained into hyperarmored heavy which tracks dodges or a bash which guarantees a heavy is a WORSE mixup access then a light which doesn't chain into any attack with proper tracking?

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

Warden, warmonger, conq; they all have dodge bashes and conqs cannot be gbed. It deals 12 damage unlike shugoki...

Warden and warmonger bashes suck against dodge attacks, especialy wm, warden can be literally lighted out of charged bash. Conq dodge bash is dodgeable on reaction, gives a GB doesn't chain on anything on wiff, doesn't have any tracking at all.
And you advocating for an unpinishable, safe for GB bash which also deals damage and can interrupt any chargeable offense.
Also you lying and this bashes doesn't do any damage by itself without certain feats and only for certain characters.

Bruh.

This is advocating for a mains in its finest.

Originally posted by Riliane:

Originally posted by Mr.IAmGodAndAll-knowing:

Warden, warmonger, conq; they all have dodge bashes and conqs cannot be gbed. It deals 12 damage unlike shugoki...

their dumb bashes actually do damages? woah.............

No they doesn't do damage by itself. Only conq from this three can pick a tear 2 feat to his bash, if I remember correctly 5 damage dealt.