Help me against JJ

[Tsatrik]

I don't know how to deal wtih this character at all.I might have problem with some,especially my beloved kensei but still managable,jj however??

1.Everytime i try to attack,he starts dancing like crazy. While kenseis dodge attack is annoying it always comes from one direction and can't be feinted. JJ tho?Can change it into light so i have to guess
2.Too many i frames,my attacks are hitting anything but him
3.His choke still removes nearly all of my stamina
4.It's very hard to punish him if he's oos,since he regens it in a second.
5.And his lights are kinda wonky,but since i played some time after ccu it's not only his problem,so it can be fixed.

So,how to play against him?What do i do?Because everytime i see one i lose against him nearly 100% of the time.

[JKArtorias]

1. If everytime you attack he starts default dancing on you, gb. Also It's the same way you fight Tiandi. Guard break randomly like you have schizophrenia. Besides that it comes down to which character you picked. You don't have to guess if he soft feints or not, it's reactable.

(I know saying it's reactable makes me sound like elitist scum but it is Jiang's animations haven't been a huge problem in 2 years)

2. Yes he does, we can't do ♥♥♥♥ about that and the devs won't change it.

3. Same as 2

4. Well you see, you're not suppose to punish Jiang because the devs suck ass at making him fun to play and use with his no stamina and fat stance.

5. I actually find his lights to be normal, i'd much rather fight a Jiang over a Warm or a Nuxia.

There's no secret tip on fighting Jiang. When i was learning HL, i came to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate his existence. But when i play normal characters that he doesn't full counter, the game plays like how it usually plays.

[Tsatrik]

Originally posted by God Of Conquest:

1. If everytime you attack he starts default dancing on you, gb. Also It's the same way you fight Tiandi. Guard break randomly like you have schizophrenia. Besides that it comes down to which character you picked. You don't have to guess if he soft feints or not, it's reactable.

(I know saying it's reactable makes me sound like elitist scum but it is Jiang's animations haven't been a huge problem in 2 years)

2. Yes he does, we can't do ♥♥♥♥ about that and the devs won't change it.

3. Same as 2

4. Well you see, you're not suppose to punish Jiang because the devs suck ass at making him fun to play and use with his no stamina and fat stance.

5. I actually find his lights to be normal, i'd much rather fight a Jiang over a Warm or a Nuxia.

There's no secret tip on fighting Jiang. When i was learning HL, i came to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate his existence. But when i play normal characters that he doesn't full counter, the game plays like how it usually plays.

Yeah a problematic character overall for sure,at any rate,thanks.

[shower speedrunner]

His dance heavy has 700ms gb vulnerable, very easy to feint heavy to gb him. (Unlike Tiandi with 600ms)

Can't react to dance heavy soft feint? Dodge.
Risk: being gb, but fair I guess.

Choke removes 60 staminas??? This is honestly too high.

4. JJ is OOS, how to punish.
This is also a difficult situation, and you have to predict your opponent.
Not the best route but here mine: dash forward, feint heavy to nothing, if JJ reacted, punish with gb or parry. If he doesn't, well, repeat. Remember the Sifu stance has gb vulnerable, so always dash forward to reduce the distance between you two. He sifu stance, gb right away.
JJ has slow stamina regen, outside of Sifu, so as long as he doesn't Sifu, he wouldn't regain stamina so soon.

5. Pray to god you block the correct side.

[Tsatrik]

Originally posted by Leg:

His dance heavy has 700ms gb vulnerable, very easy to feint heavy to gb him. (Unlike Tiandi with 600ms)

Can't react to dance heavy soft feint? Dodge.
Risk: being gb, but fair I guess.

Choke removes 60 staminas??? This is honestly too high.

4. JJ is OOS, how to punish.
This is also a difficult situation, and you have to predict your opponent.
Not the best route but here mine: dash forward, feint heavy to nothing, if JJ reacted, punish with gb or parry. If he doesn't, well, repeat. Remember the Sifu stance has gb vulnerable, so always dash forward to reduce the distance between you two. He sifu stance, gb right away.
JJ has slow stamina regen, outside of Sifu, so as long as he doesn't Sifu, he wouldn't regain stamina so soon.

5. Pray to god you block the correct side.

Thanks for tips!

[EZ_Mode_Guy]

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

I don't know how to deal wtih this character at all.I might have problem with some,especially my beloved kensei but still managable,jj however??

1.Everytime i try to attack,he starts dancing like crazy. While kenseis dodge attack is annoying it always comes from one direction and can't be feinted. JJ tho?Can change it into light so i have to guess
2.Too many i frames,my attacks are hitting anything but him
3.His choke still removes nearly all of my stamina
4.It's very hard to punish him if he's oos,since he regens it in a second.
5.And his lights are kinda wonky,but since i played some time after ccu it's not only his problem,so it can be fixed.

So,how to play against him?What do i do?Because everytime i see one i lose against him nearly 100% of the time.

JJ is easy to beat, you just need to play against him more and learn to predict and read his moves that's it. the only 50/50 move is the dodge attack that is high resk low reward and it's very easy to predict
his lights is easy to read and parry and even blocked with alost eyes closed.
and for the chock you need to learn to feint more and just go for heavy unless your {sure} it will hit. also you need to learn to manage you stamina will.

[Tsatrik]

Originally posted by MighttyBeast:

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

I don't know how to deal wtih this character at all.I might have problem with some,especially my beloved kensei but still managable,jj however??

1.Everytime i try to attack,he starts dancing like crazy. While kenseis dodge attack is annoying it always comes from one direction and can't be feinted. JJ tho?Can change it into light so i have to guess
2.Too many i frames,my attacks are hitting anything but him
3.His choke still removes nearly all of my stamina
4.It's very hard to punish him if he's oos,since he regens it in a second.
5.And his lights are kinda wonky,but since i played some time after ccu it's not only his problem,so it can be fixed.

So,how to play against him?What do i do?Because everytime i see one i lose against him nearly 100% of the time.

JJ is easy to beat, you just need to play against him more and learn to predict and read his moves that's it. the only 50/50 move is the dodge attack that is high resk low reward and it's very easy to predict
his lights is easy to read and parry and even blocked with alost eyes closed.
and for the chock you need to learn to feint more and just go for heavy unless your {sure} it will hit. also you need to learn to manage you stamina will.

It's a little bit easier for me now,but his choke still drains way too much tbh.

[EZ_Mode_Guy]

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

Originally posted by MighttyBeast:

JJ is easy to beat, you just need to play against him more and learn to predict and read his moves that's it. the only 50/50 move is the dodge attack that is high resk low reward and it's very easy to predict
his lights is easy to read and parry and even blocked with alost eyes closed.
and for the chock you need to learn to feint more and just go for heavy unless your {sure} it will hit. also you need to learn to manage you stamina will.

It's a little bit easier for me now,but his choke still drains way too much tbh.

don't get parried that's it.

[Tsatrik]

Originally posted by MighttyBeast:

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

It's a little bit easier for me now,but his choke still drains way too much tbh.

don't get parried that's it.

So not attacking?That's a bad advice tbh.I am not throwing raw heavies if you think i do. Sometimes you do get parried,and if you do,you lose all your stamina.

[EZ_Mode_Guy]

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

Originally posted by MighttyBeast:

don't get parried that's it.

So not attacking?That's a bad advice tbh.I am not throwing raw heavies if you think i do. Sometimes you do get parried,and if you do,you lose all your stamina.

always feint to light unless you gbreak him or splat him to a wall, that's what I'm saying.

[Tsatrik]

Originally posted by MighttyBeast:

Originally posted by I am your huckleberry:

So not attacking?That's a bad advice tbh.I am not throwing raw heavies if you think i do. Sometimes you do get parried,and if you do,you lose all your stamina.

always feint to light unless you gbreak him or splat him to a wall, that's what I'm saying.

Okay,got it.

[Viable_Golem4375]

1. The main weakness to JJs dodge attack is that it's GB vulnerable like a normal heavy is, so try random GBs if the JJ does a ton of dodge attacks.

2. Try feinting whatever attack you were doing into a GB as then you will grab him out of his dodge attack.

3. Yeah this is just stupid, all we can hope is that the devs adjust this.

4. Back to 1. and 2. scare him with GBs, his stamina regen stance is GB vulnerable so if you do GBs a lot it may scare the JJ into not entering the stance as often.

5. His light animations actually were recently fixed, they used to be really weird looking but the devs redid the animations. This may be why you're experiencing trouble with them if you had played before the CCU changes.

[Derrame]

he is too fast, you can't block the attacks, you can try to run to escape the fight

[BigJ]

Just a fact check. Choke removes 40 stam+5 if you are oos (the backhand finisher than knocks)

[Toasty]

Depends of what character you are using and how the jj player is (he spam lights? Try to parry him. He keeps spamming his lateral dodge? Gb or some special attacks like warlord zone attack or prior's heavies finishers)... Some characters are extremely good against him, others are disadvantaged