Black Prior is overpowered change my mind

[JOSEPH JOESTAR]

"Their is clearly nothing wrong with him" is what people who are braindead would say

[HELLCAT]

*bash recovery*

[Violet Panda]

In comparison to the other year 3s he really isn’t any more or less aids... the only reason he gets smack talked so much is cause he’s a fortress but I mean what did you expect from a better conquerer. Shield bashing is too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ safe I agree but other than that he’s really just more viable than the rest of the Cast as is the other year 3.

[kudo]

bASh spAm iS EnTiREly The fAulT OF ThE ReCEiVing plAyEr

This makes sense for Conqueror. It even makes some sense for Warden. Why? Because the entire cast can punish it with a dodge and a guard break. Some of the lucky ones can even punish it with a dodge attack. Due to the existence of this cast-consistent counterplay, part of the "bash spam dynamics" argument's credibility lies with the ability to punish it and thereby discourage the bash spammer from further potential spammage.

Of course, this doesn't apply to BP.

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

*bash recovery*

this, basically. BP gets crushing counters in every direction. he gets an all guard with an awesome flip. a wonderful option select that ignores hyper armor and guarantees a light, even a dodge-tracking chain heavy. hell, the man even gets a top heavy on a light parry.

he doesn't need that recovery time

at least this much is true: bp has a fantastic kit. he's my second favorite character after everyone's favorite shoulder bash spammer Warden. yes i play them like cancer (never light/heavy, bash and feint into gb spam/option select only) and even scum like me knows BP's bash recovery makes him brain dead. i have a 66% winrate with the guy and i know i deserved very few of those wins, if any.

[Sunbro]

gladiator dodge bash ****s him

[Sunbro]

also cancel atc is nice

[Gaser]

Personlly the only bad thing is that crushing counter lights also work while backwalking, which if done rightly can make them not punsiable.

The Bash is fine in my opinion and so is the rest of his kit.

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by Gaser:

Personlly the only bad thing is that crushing counter lights also work while backwalking, which if done rightly can make them not punsiable.

The Bash is fine in my opinion and so is the rest of his kit.

i think bp bash recovery need nerf since it cant chain into bulwark

[Gaser]

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

Originally posted by Gaser:

Personlly the only bad thing is that crushing counter lights also work while backwalking, which if done rightly can make them not punsiable.

The Bash is fine in my opinion and so is the rest of his kit.

i think bp bash recovery need nerf since it cant chain into bulwark

Eh but his bash is really easy to avoid, highering the recovery will pretty much allow for a GB.

I dont know I kinda think that the devs should make something that moves have enough recovery so you land a light but still give you the abillty to counter gb or give everyone dodge attacks. (Where is my shugoki belly dodge bash, ubi?)

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by Gaser:

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

i think bp bash recovery need nerf since it cant chain into bulwark

Eh but his bash is really easy to avoid, highering the recovery will pretty much allow for a GB.

I dont know I kinda think that the devs should make something that moves have enough recovery so you land a light but still give you the abillty to counter gb or give everyone dodge attacks. (Where is my shugoki belly dodge bash, ubi?)

just increase the recovery lil a bit
so ppl can punish with dodge attack

[Gaser]

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

Originally posted by Gaser:

Eh but his bash is really easy to avoid, highering the recovery will pretty much allow for a GB.

I dont know I kinda think that the devs should make something that moves have enough recovery so you land a light but still give you the abillty to counter gb or give everyone dodge attacks. (Where is my shugoki belly dodge bash, ubi?)

just increase the recovery lil a bit
so ppl can punish with dodge attack

I pretty sure you can already with dodge lights.

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by Gaser:

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

just increase the recovery lil a bit
so ppl can punish with dodge attack

I pretty sure you can already with dodge lights.

kensei dodge attack sometime got blocked

[Beliar48]

for me kensei orochi and pecekeeper best choise, too hard to play vortiger for me , that depends on person who play that character pretty sure if people who kill you for black prior kill you on another character and you say that they op too

[Gaser]

Originally posted by Beliar 48:

for me kensei orochi and pecekeeper best choise, too hard to play vortiger for me , that depends on person who play that character pretty sure if people who kill you for black prior kill you on another character and you say that they op too

Eh, Im not sure what you want to tell us.

No offense you need to work on your english a bit.

[Viable_Golem4375]

1. He is not overpowered.

2. It doesn't sound like your mind will change regardless of what's said here based on the second thing you wrote.

3.

Originally posted by kudowoodo:

bASh spAm iS EnTiREly The fAulT OF ThE ReCEiVing plAyEr

This makes sense for Conqueror. It even makes some sense for Warden. Why? Because the entire cast can punish it with a dodge and a guard break. Some of the lucky ones can even punish it with a dodge attack. Due to the existence of this cast-consistent counterplay, part of the "bash spam dynamics" argument's credibility lies with the ability to punish it and thereby discourage the bash spammer from further potential spammage.

Of course, this doesn't apply to BP.

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

*bash recovery*

this, basically. BP gets crushing counters in every direction. he gets an all guard with an awesome flip. a wonderful option select that ignores hyper armor and guarantees a light, even a dodge-tracking chain heavy. hell, the man even gets a top heavy on a light parry.

he doesn't need that recovery time

at least this much is true: bp has a fantastic kit. he's my second favorite character after everyone's favorite shoulder bash spammer Warden. yes i play them like cancer (never light/heavy, bash and feint into gb spam/option select only) and even scum like me knows BP's bash recovery makes him brain dead. i have a 66% winrate with the guy and i know i deserved very few of those wins, if any.

The only difference between Conq and BPs recoveries is that BP has a longer block recovery, GB recoveries are the same on both heroes, so the only time this will make any difference is with slow-ish dodge attacks when trying to punish with them.

[Amon]

Originally posted by HELLCAT:

Originally posted by Gaser:

Eh but his bash is really easy to avoid, highering the recovery will pretty much allow for a GB.

I dont know I kinda think that the devs should make something that moves have enough recovery so you land a light but still give you the abillty to counter gb or give everyone dodge attacks. (Where is my shugoki belly dodge bash, ubi?)

just increase the recovery lil a bit
so ppl can punish with dodge attack

you can punish it. Orochi Tiandi Zhanzu etc dodge lights all work