Valkyrie shield bash and leg sweep

[SnusHead]

How do you counter valk shieldbash spam?
Is there even any way to deal with effectively?

And am i the only one that thinks that the leg sweep animation is broken?
I always have to dodge super early so it doesn't hit me and the sweep goes right through my legs, it looks really strange; when i'm dodging it how i dodge usual attacks it always hits me although i feel it shouldn't

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Hobosen:

If you have the reaction time of a pensioner, yes.
He's one of the easiest heroes to fight imo.

I'ma just quote this from the other discussion on Jorm. Cause it works here.

[kudo]

Originally posted by Hobosen:

you have the reaction time of a pensioner, yes.
He's one of the easiest heroes to fight imo.

If you're unfamiliar with the way Valkyrie's mixups work, it does help to play her for a bit and see when you can chain into what. Once you know what all the possibilities are, you can theoretically turtle against Valkyrie indefinitely. Her bashes aren't particularly fast and can be dodged infinitely if you just wait for the orange flashes. Her sweep has not only a huge visual cue but an audio cue as well. Once you figure this out, just block in the direction of her attacks and now you are invincible against Valkyrie.

The catch with fighting Valkyrie lies in trying to be aggressive. But even then a lot of heroes overpower her in that respect as well, such as Warden and Black Prior.

[Nobody410]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvksLi6Cw_k like this you dodge

[Vexoreh]

Originally posted by kudowoodo:

Originally posted by Hobosen:

you have the reaction time of a pensioner, yes.
He's one of the easiest heroes to fight imo.

If you're unfamiliar with the way Valkyrie's mixups work, it does help to play her for a bit and see when you can chain into what. Once you know what all the possibilities are, you can theoretically turtle against Valkyrie indefinitely. Her bashes aren't particularly fast and can be dodged infinitely if you just wait for the orange flashes. Her sweep has not only a huge visual cue but an audio cue as well. Once you figure this out, just block in the direction of her attacks and now you are invincible against Valkyrie.

The catch with fighting Valkyrie lies in trying to be aggressive. But even then a lot of heroes overpower her in that respect as well, such as Warden and Black Prior.

BP broken change my mind

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by Eclipse ❤:

Originally posted by kudowoodo:

If you're unfamiliar with the way Valkyrie's mixups work, it does help to play her for a bit and see when you can chain into what. Once you know what all the possibilities are, you can theoretically turtle against Valkyrie indefinitely. Her bashes aren't particularly fast and can be dodged infinitely if you just wait for the orange flashes. Her sweep has not only a huge visual cue but an audio cue as well. Once you figure this out, just block in the direction of her attacks and now you are invincible against Valkyrie.

The catch with fighting Valkyrie lies in trying to be aggressive. But even then a lot of heroes overpower her in that respect as well, such as Warden and Black Prior.

BP broken change my mind

broken means unplayable
and bp is playable i play him!

[Vexoreh]

or broken also means unplayable for players to play agasint him

[HELLCAT]

Originally posted by Eclipse ❤:

or broken also means unplayable for players to play agasint him

its the player fault then

[Vexoreh]

ah yes players fault they get bashed spammed then turtled into a flip. stupid how you dont get a punish for dodging a bash cant even gb it, gj ubi

[Gaser]

Originally posted by Eclipse ❤:

ah yes players fault they get bashed spammed then turtled into a flip. stupid how you dont get a punish for dodging a bash cant even gb it, gj ubi

Is a 500ms forward only bash that hard to avoid?

Spam is almost exclusively the fault of the player on the receiving end.

Also turtle in to flip kinda doesn’t really make sense do tho bulwerk Counter being a parry like input from a full block stance which is a pretty vurnable state to be in if you guess wrong.


Only thing the devs should really look at are his backwards crushing counter strike light.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

Originally posted by ۞Big J۞:

We got a hostile in tango 6, over.

That said the solution is to practice and git gud, surely thar hostile attitude won't help improve against a character needing a decent buff.

Yes, practice to try punishing an unpunishable bash that's gonna help

do you people even read what's being said ? the problem is not dodging the bash, the problem is that even if you dodge the bash you can't get any punish out of it for most characters, for some you can even get punished for it.

You can gb valk out of the bash if you expect a heavy and parry her if you expect a light, as shugoki you can just do a light and never be worried about the outcome, bp is a different story but valk precisely has it simple, she can only do 3 of them anyway that deal 40 damage if they all somehow land so you ain't exactly loosing.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

Originally posted by ۞Big J۞:

You can gb valk out of the bash if you expect a heavy and parry her if you expect a light, as shugoki you can just do a light and never be worried about the outcome, bp is a different story but valk precisely has it simple, she can only do 3 of them anyway that deal 40 damage if they all somehow land so you ain't exactly loosing.

And why are you telling me this ? We were precisely talking about bp, feels like you just write all of your posts without actually reading anything.

Threat was about valk, you people derailed it to bp because op changed mid string, so I kept with the original topic.

Not my fault op can't be bothered to make another threst instead of changing subject that barely has anything to do with valk.

[Amon]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

Originally posted by Gaser:

Is a 500ms forward only bash that hard to avoid?

Spam is almost exclusively the fault of the player on the receiving end.

Also turtle in to flip kinda doesn’t really make sense do tho bulwerk Counter being a parry like input from a full block stance which is a pretty vurnable state to be in if you guess wrong.


Only thing the devs should really look at are his backwards crushing counter strike light.

That's not the point she is making, most characters CANNOT punish bp shield
bp that knows that their sb cannot be punished just spam it over and over.

it's not ''the player fault'' some character CANNOT punish this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bash, what's so hard to understand there.
I would still take a bp over a warden anyday tho, at least most bp use more than his sb to win and the move is still way less bs than shoulderbash

Every character can punish BP's shield bash with a read. Even most dodge attacks require a read to punish BP. Please dont say it is unpunishable because it is.

[SnusHead]

Originally posted by ۞Big J۞:

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

And why are you telling me this ? We were precisely talking about bp, feels like you just write all of your posts without actually reading anything.

Threat was about valk, you people derailed it to bp because op changed mid string, so I kept with the original topic.

Not my fault op can't be bothered to make another threst instead of changing subject that barely has anything to do with valk.

I don't know what you're talking about i didn't even answer anyone who replied to this thread yet

[SnusHead]

Originally posted by God Of Conquest:

Originally posted by Hobosen:

If you have the reaction time of a pensioner, yes.
He's one of the easiest heroes to fight imo.

I'ma just quote this from the other discussion on Jorm. Cause it works here.

Bruh.
The leg sweep is easy to react, like i already said i often even wait with my dodge because i feel like dodging earlier would hit me but the animation is just trash (like most of valk's animations).
Regarding the shieldbash i don't even think it's supposed to be reactable.
I can dodge BP's i can dodge jorm's bashes but valk's bashes seem to come out faster

[Amon]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

I have to guess, I have to predict that an enemy black prior is going to use his bash out of everything to punish it, still running the risk to get myself punished for trying it.

I have to guess that he is going to use a bash that he can access ANYTIME, at any given moment to punish it.

Play around with words all you want, BP bash cannot be punished

You may not be able punish BP. I can. Learn to make a read this game wont get easier for the average players everyone should have realized this by now. You need to guess yes like all fighting games.