Get rid of the dominion zone capture orders

[SCFno]

The orders system in general has design flaws but this one in particular incentivizes a counter intuitive way of playing dominion. If you are trying to get through your orders quickly so you can get back to playing the game the way you want then you need to get more zone caps in a match. but if you are playing well then there will be alot less zones caped by the enemy. So the best way to play dominion for zone caps is to sit outside the zone, let the enemy cap it and take it back. This means that you are intentionally dragging out the match for your teammates, who you also have to ask to not guard the zone. It actually punishes you for being a good teamate and player.

I understand that the devs like to think that something like orders is supposed to be a sort of passive thing thats in the background but it isn't. orders are the main source of steel for players and so completing orders is a rather important thing. I get that they want to limit how much steel players are making to get them frustrated and buy steel (a totally cool and kind way of treating players) but thats already accomplished by having the timer.

[Lukkyb]

I mean you could just play dominion until you've done the order

[SCFno]

Originally posted by Nr2 Lukkyb:

I mean you could just play dominion until you've done the order

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[Lukkyb]

well unless you have a bunch of friends who are willing to play theres not alot else you can do

[SCFno]

Originally posted by Nr2 Lukkyb:

well unless you have a bunch of friends who are willing to play theres not alot else you can do

i... i can complete orders mate. thats not the point of this discussion. the point is its badly designed. i explained all of this in the post.

[Lukkyb]

i still dont get how its designed badly. its designed to be done over mulitple matches rather than one if it was designed for one it might be like 3 or 4 instead of 20

[gogame]

yes its done so you can complete in multiple matches. But on top of that they can add orders to defend boost fight inside captured objective. orders are very fun to make no idea how ubisoft has no interesting orders at all. pretty dull, but all of theyr games missions are pretty dull most of the time. my opinion

[SCFno]

Originally posted by Nr2 Lukkyb:

i still dont get how its designed badly. its designed to be done over mulitple matches rather than one if it was designed for one it might be like 3 or 4 instead of 20

ok ill take this into the basics

there is a theory in game design called Nuke theory. the concept is that you can give payers all of the coolest weapons to play with it wont matter if you give them a nuke because they will just use the nuke to win. Its the idea that when you design obstacles you have to keep in mind the most optimal way of overcoming it, because thats what players are gonna do. you cant just sit there and be like "well im sure that they will just play the way i want them to".

Orders are important, so they need to be done.
Our time is important, so getting orders done quickly is important
The quickest way to get dom zone caps done goes against the best way to play dominion as a team member

[PROPHYZ]

main source of steel ? That's the market for me, couldn't care less about orders.
Just finish those orders you find annoying fast with bots then, so no harm is done.

badly designed, prob. some of them yeah. That's for sure.

[SCFno]

Originally posted by prophyz:

main source of steel ? That's the market for me, couldn't care less about orders.
Just finish those orders you find annoying fast with bots then, so no harm is done.

badly designed, prob. some of them yeah. That's for sure.

This brings up a good point, that really the most optimal way to get steel is to just buy it. remember the entire steel system doesnt need to exist they could have just made everything earnable through reputation.

I love this game, and i put up with its glitches and crashes, i put up with its greedy incentivized microtranactions, but it just really bothers me that this one particular order had no thought behind it and they can just get rid of it without any reprocussions.