slow shaolin down

[Flying Fish]

there is no need for him to be this stupidly fast especially his top light hes just another spam hero at this point

[Only_war]

as far as i know, they could have not made this expansion, as i dont care about arcade and wu lin just broke the game even more, just an update with perk sistem and new sets would have been good

[Flying Fish]

Originally posted by Schwartzenangry:

as far as i know, they could have not made this expansion, as i dont care about arcade and wu lin just broke the game even more, just an update with perk sistem and new sets would have been good

yeah i rly dont understand adding 4 more heroes when they cant even balance the original non dlc heroes its clearly all about the money and its annoying that so many people praise the devs for this expansion when it just ♥♥♥♥♥ the game over

we need an esports tournament for this game that will show people how unbalanced it is 90% would be playing shaolin-conq-besereker and warden and only cheap tactics would be used

[Only_war]

Originally posted by Bradley:

Originally posted by Schwartzenangry:

as far as i know, they could have not made this expansion, as i dont care about arcade and wu lin just broke the game even more, just an update with perk sistem and new sets would have been good

yeah i rly dont understand adding 4 more heroes when they cant even balance the original non dlc heroes its clearly all about the money and its annoying that so many people praise the devs for this expansion when it just ♥♥♥♥♥ the game over

we need an esports tournament for this game that will show people how unbalanced it is 90% would be playing shaolin-conq-besereker and warden and only cheap tactics would be used

who even uses berserker, he doesnt have any supersonic bash or anything

[Flying Fish]

Originally posted by Schwartzenangry:

Originally posted by Bradley:

yeah i rly dont understand adding 4 more heroes when they cant even balance the original non dlc heroes its clearly all about the money and its annoying that so many people praise the devs for this expansion when it just ♥♥♥♥♥ the game over

we need an esports tournament for this game that will show people how unbalanced it is 90% would be playing shaolin-conq-besereker and warden and only cheap tactics would be used

who even uses berserker, he doesnt have any supersonic bash or anything

yes but he destroys heroes like nuxia and in 1v1 hes pretty beastly

[minerunknown]

Why do people call conq OP? against fat heroes who cant dodge his sb is pretty good, but other than that it's not all that hard to dodge. He also has nothing without his SB, so whats the damn issue? Zerker I can kinda see, as people who aren't used to him will get screwed by his feints.

[Antik]

Toning down speed will be a hard nerf and might put Shaolin on the rework/buff list which isn't good for the game. Buffing other character seems more reasonable, and if they really wanna nerf him i hope they nerf damage and/or stamina costs to tone him down but not make any of his moves useless.

[minerunknown]

Originally posted by Antik:

Toning down speed will be a hard nerf and might put Shaolin on the rework/buff list which isn't good for the game. Buffing other character seems more reasonable, and if they really wanna nerf him i hope they nerf damage and/or stamina costs to tone him down but not make any of his moves useless.

I like shaolin, hes a step in the RIGHT direction. For Honor should be offensive focused isntead of turtle focused.

[Only_war]

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Why do people call conq OP? against fat heroes who cant dodge his sb is pretty good, but other than that it's not all that hard to dodge. He also has nothing without his SB, so whats the damn issue? Zerker I can kinda see, as people who aren't used to him will get screwed by his feints.

because you can only dodge hit him safely, which is less damage than he does with his quick after bash, in a long duel he wins he has a ton hp, you cant dodge every bash. plus is the only thing coqueror mains do and its suicidingly boring

[Flying Fish]

Originally posted by Antik:

Toning down speed will be a hard nerf and might put Shaolin on the rework/buff list which isn't good for the game. Buffing other character seems more reasonable, and if they really wanna nerf him i hope they nerf damage and/or stamina costs to tone him down but not make any of his moves useless.

well it sounds like you want to make all heroes super fast but then we will just get a spam meta shaolin is just spammy af right now

[minerunknown]

Originally posted by Schwartzenangry:

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Why do people call conq OP? against fat heroes who cant dodge his sb is pretty good, but other than that it's not all that hard to dodge. He also has nothing without his SB, so whats the damn issue? Zerker I can kinda see, as people who aren't used to him will get screwed by his feints.

because you can only dodge hit him safely, which is less damage than he does with his quick after bash, in a long duel he wins he has a ton hp, you cant dodge every bash. plus is the only thing coqueror mains do and its suicidingly boring

i DO agree he needs to be moved away from sb spam. but so far AS a conq(not main, just trying him out.) ive had nothing but people dodge my sb and/or abuse his 600ms+ recovery to get a heavy or other move in. His Damage is also low unless you manage to land a charged heavy, which is nigh impossible unless you throw them on the ground.

I don't want to de-rail the thread though, so ill leave it there.

[Barrogh]

Originally posted by minerunknown:

Why do people call conq OP? against fat heroes who cant dodge his sb is pretty good, but other than that it's not all that hard to dodge. He also has nothing without his SB, so whats the damn issue? Zerker I can kinda see, as people who aren't used to him will get screwed by his feints.

He has different timings on his bashes. Only good dodge attacks counter all of those, but then it's possible to bait them out and parry.

He's S-tier because of his SB, charged OS parry and zone OS parry combined.

As for Shaolin: block top, react to sides. And if you play an assassin, well...

[Nox]

Originally posted by Bradley:

there is no need for him to be this stupidly fast especially his top light hes just another spam hero at this point

We have 1 light spammer, community is very agitated by him (orochi).

Let's not fix him.

LET'S ADD 2 MORE (Shaolin, Nuxia).

[Flying Fish]

Originally posted by FluffyHusky:

Originally posted by Bradley:

there is no need for him to be this stupidly fast especially his top light hes just another spam hero at this point

We have 1 light spammer, community is very agitated by him (orochi).

Let's not fix him.

LET'S ADD 2 MORE (Shaolin, Nuxia).

ikr but ill take orochi light spam over shaolin spam everyday atleast with orochi you can stop him from getting the chain going shaolin just spams and you cant even stop it especially not with reflex gaurd

[Barrogh]

Originally posted by FluffyHusky:

We have 1 light spammer, community is very agitated by him (orochi).

Let's not fix him.

LET'S ADD 2 MORE (Shaolin, Nuxia).

Considering Orochi is only okay in Duel and sucks everywhere else, yeah :P
By the way, Orochi has no fast lights outside of his chains, and even there not all of them are 400 ms.

As for Shaolin, his top light is not why he's dangerous (although that helps).

Can we please stop asking devs to make toothless heroes only?

[Nox]

Originally posted by Bradley:

Originally posted by FluffyHusky:

We have 1 light spammer, community is very agitated by him (orochi).

Let's not fix him.

LET'S ADD 2 MORE (Shaolin, Nuxia).

ikr but ill take orochi light spam over shaolin spam everyday atleast with orochi you can stop him from getting the chain going shaolin just spams and you cant even stop it especially not with reflex gaurd

Yeah, and don't get me started on his 1 light = 2 more guaranteed...