40 hours waiting for contract orders ?!?

[TomGoodwrenchSK]

Are you cereal Ubisoft ?? Can't you just make them reset every 12 hours ? You are really that desperate for microtransactions and not letting people earn Steel in a normal way faster ? You are just punishing people for playing your game.

[Transcendent]

contract orders are there to give you xp, they give minute amounts of steel.

the steel orders are the daily ones, which reset every 24 hours.

[Zero]

12 hours? fkin hell dude, do you think people play this game 24/7? cuz i think most people would be missing their orders constantly if this was the case, since based on steam charts, during the day it's like 11k people online at the most, but then in the evening it doubles, so that's thousands of people missing their orders on steam alone, because they can't play both in the morning and evening.

[Undead Rufus]

Originally posted by TomLehockySVK:

Are you cereal Ubisoft ??

I thought only the characters in "Life Is Strange" talked/wrote like that. Guess my age is showing.

As for the contract orders, I wish they reset every day, but it's really not that bad. I bought FH during the summer sale, and I've saved over 100K steel in just a couple of months.

[Wicked Dick]

Lmao this is 100% ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You do already have 2 contracts for steel per day, having another 6 would be stupid and tiresome. There is no problem with gaining steel AT ALL.

[Skearn]

every tuesday, thursday, saturday and sunday are new orders.

daily orders are daily:)

[Chizzler]

Could you explain how Ubisoft is punishing you for playing the game? YOU not earning steel as fast as YOU want is YOUR impatience. There's no punishment there.

[TomGoodwrenchSK]

Originally posted by Wicked ♥♥♥♥:

Lmao this is 100% ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You do already have 2 contracts for steel per day, having another 6 would be stupid and tiresome. There is no problem with gaining steel AT ALL.

Yeah true ! Why would they give people the chance to earn more steel if possible, herecy !

[TomGoodwrenchSK]

Originally posted by Chizzler:

Could you explain how Ubisoft is punishing you for playing the game? YOU not earning steel as fast as YOU want is YOUR impatience. There's no punishment there.

Because it is just as you are saying, they make it more benefficial for me to play the game a lot less, to earn more just by playing an hour a day max.

[Chizzler]

Originally posted by TomLehockySVK:

Originally posted by Chizzler:

Could you explain how Ubisoft is punishing you for playing the game? YOU not earning steel as fast as YOU want is YOUR impatience. There's no punishment there.

Because it is just as you are saying, they make it more benefficial for me to play the game a lot less, to earn more just by playing an hour a day max.

If you're going to claim I've said something, you may not want to include my comment in your response... Pretty clear I said nothing of the sort.

Is the baseline steel you earn from playing a match going down the more you play? No. That would be a punishment.
Are you given periodic optional objectives for additional steel & XP? Yes. That's a reward for regular play.


The contract system in For Honor doesn't have any impact on your rewards for completing matches, That's an entirely seperate dynamic system that puts zero weight towards how long you've played. You could play for 8 hours and you'll be getting the same amount of steel for playing a match (all other variables being equal) as you would in your first match.

Your mistake is considering the contract system as part of your baseline reward income, rather than a bonus.

There's an interesting case study from World Of Warcraft. When it launched there was a XP debuff that was applied after you'd played more than a few hours in a day. An enemy that would reward you 50xp initially would only reward you 25xp and It was hated by the community as they felt it was a punishment for continued play.

Blizzard flipped it on it's head. They changed the debuff to a buff that applied for the first few hours and called it a rested bonus. Cleverly, they also adjusted the baseline XP from 50xp down to 25xp. The end results were the same, Initially the enemy was rewarding 50xp which then dropped to 25xp. The perception had changed though, as players felt they were now being rewarded for their first few hours, rather than punished for playing too long.

Now, you may conclude that's still a punishment, you're earning less after playing for a while, and there's an argument to say that's true, but there's an equal argument that you're simply being rewarded for coming back each day with bonus XP. After all, if theynever had the rested bonus, you'd be earning less.

So, to bring it back to For Honor, you can consider the Contracts to be your Rested Bonus. They don't have to be there at all, they're not essential to the game, they're just a Skinner Box mechanic that's there as a form of behavioural conditioning to keep you coming back by drip feeding you rewards... If you're not in game, you're not exposed to their in-game store and you're not going to make a purchase.

Most importantly though, remember that the goal of any game should always be enjoyment. If you're playing purely for the aquisition of steel, you've fallen victim to another psycological trick and you're essentially watching a number tick up slowly in the blind hope that there's some worthwhile payoff once it hits a certain figure.

[TomGoodwrenchSK]

Originally posted by Chizzler:

Most importantly though, remember that the goal of any game should always be enjoyment. If you're playing purely for the aquisition of steel, you've fallen victim to another psycological trick and you're essentially watching a number tick up slowly in the blind hope that there's some worthwhile payoff once it hits a certain figure.

Alright that part there made me pause and think. I probably needed to hear this thing you wrote right there.

[Skearn]

Originally posted by Chizzler:

Originally posted by TomLehockySVK:

Because it is just as you are saying, they make it more benefficial for me to play the game a lot less, to earn more just by playing an hour a day max.

If you're going to claim I've said something, you may not want to include my comment in your response... Pretty clear I said nothing of the sort.

Is the baseline steel you earn from playing a match going down the more you play? No. That would be a punishment.
Are you given periodic optional objectives for additional steel & XP? Yes. That's a reward for regular play.


The contract system in For Honor doesn't have any impact on your rewards for completing matches, That's an entirely seperate dynamic system that puts zero weight towards how long you've played. You could play for 8 hours and you'll be getting the same amount of steel for playing a match (all other variables being equal) as you would in your first match.

Your mistake is considering the contract system as part of your baseline reward income, rather than a bonus.

There's an interesting case study from World Of Warcraft. When it launched there was a XP debuff that was applied after you'd played more than a few hours in a day. An enemy that would reward you 50xp initially would only reward you 25xp and It was hated by the community as they felt it was a punishment for continued play.

Blizzard flipped it on it's head. They changed the debuff to a buff that applied for the first few hours and called it a rested bonus. Cleverly, they also adjusted the baseline XP from 50xp down to 25xp. The end results were the same, Initially the enemy was rewarding 50xp which then dropped to 25xp. The perception had changed though, as players felt they were now being rewarded for their first few hours, rather than punished for playing too long.

Now, you may conclude that's still a punishment, you're earning less after playing for a while, and there's an argument to say that's true, but there's an equal argument that you're simply being rewarded for coming back each day with bonus XP. After all, if theynever had the rested bonus, you'd be earning less.

So, to bring it back to For Honor, you can consider the Contracts to be your Rested Bonus. They don't have to be there at all, they're not essential to the game, they're just a Skinner Box mechanic that's there as a form of behavioural conditioning to keep you coming back by drip feeding you rewards... If you're not in game, you're not exposed to their in-game store and you're not going to make a purchase.

Most importantly though, remember that the goal of any game should always be enjoyment. If you're playing purely for the aquisition of steel, you've fallen victim to another psycological trick and you're essentially watching a number tick up slowly in the blind hope that there's some worthwhile payoff once it hits a certain figure.

i applaud you good ser:)