Lawbringer is the worst hero in 1v1

[Sack of Wet Mice]

Ubi pls, all I ask is for more hyperarmor or a faster opener

[Explicable]

Lol he is amazing in 1v1. Actually one of the best if you know how to use him. Don't blame Ubi for your lack of skill. xD

[Sack of Wet Mice]

引用自 Explicable：

Lol he is amazing in 1v1. Actually one of the best if you know how to use him. Don't blame Ubi for your lack of skill. xD

I’m rep 18 with him, if you’re going against people that know what they’re doing it can be difficult to get any damage in. Whereas using Glad, I can typically get an easy 3-0. I can do the same with LB, but that usually involves blockshove > light spam or parry baiting constantly, otherwise known as turtle.avi. If you were actually competent though, you’d give a reason why he’s so “amazing” in a 1v1 scenario

[HiJacked]

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[Csx39]

引用自 Damianus：

引用自 Csx39 YT：

He’s not the worst

Valk warden shugoki are lower than lb

shugo is nót lower than LB, his hyperarmor is extremely usefull. LB's issue is that the only thing he can do to properly get in damage is parry, also he is much more prone to 50/50s and other cheesy spam moves because he, together with shugoki, dodges slower than any other character, just one example you can't dodge cent's punch after heavy as an lb or shugoki, you literally can not, they are too slow or same with warden vortex, if they do in immediate gb, you cannot roll out because you're too slow and will get guardbroken mid-dodge. This is the first issue that should be adressed for both shugo and lb.

LB is better than shugo just because of block into shove it completely stops zerks PKs and shamans who need to have an attack blocked or land an attack to get access to some mixups

[Csx39]

引用自 IVIalicious 🧕💣💥👌：

引用自 Csx39 YT：

He’s not the worst

Valk warden shugoki are lower than lb

Shug has hyperarmor.

Valk doesn't have attacks that are slow as all hell and still has more offensive moves than LB does.

It's purely opinion but knowing this, i'd say LB is indeed the worst hero in 1v1s.

Lb has shove into block which stops a lot of mixups

Lawbringers top and light finishers are the same speed as valks lights

[Sack of Wet Mice]

引用自 Csx39 YT：

引用自 Damianus：

shugo is nót lower than LB, his hyperarmor is extremely usefull. LB's issue is that the only thing he can do to properly get in damage is parry, also he is much more prone to 50/50s and other cheesy spam moves because he, together with shugoki, dodges slower than any other character, just one example you can't dodge cent's punch after heavy as an lb or shugoki, you literally can not, they are too slow or same with warden vortex, if they do in immediate gb, you cannot roll out because you're too slow and will get guardbroken mid-dodge. This is the first issue that should be adressed for both shugo and lb.

LB is better than shugo just because of block into shove it completely stops zerks PKs and shamans who need to have an attack blocked or land an attack to get access to some mixups

Blockshove stops those, yes, but ultimately does nothing. A light followup can be dodged/deflected and a gb could be countered.

[Csx39]

引用自 ⇋Kaz⇌：

引用自 Csx39 YT：

LB is better than shugo just because of block into shove it completely stops zerks PKs and shamans who need to have an attack blocked or land an attack to get access to some mixups

Blockshove stops those, yes, but ultimately does nothing. A light followup can be dodged/deflected and a gb could be countered.

I’m not talking about the mixups after the shove I’m just talking about it stopping combos it’s what made prework conq the ultimate turtle

It does
Zerkers orochis PKs and shamans have to land an attack or have a heavy blocked to get their mixups especially zerker and orochi

[Wanderer Yeumun]

Lawbringer has always been weak in 1v1 situations. He's too predictable and relies on a counterattacking playstyle that is too slow to properly do anything. His guard changing feels somehow *slower* than a lot of other characters, his attacks are slow, he has almost no way to get guaranteed damage, and his big gimmick, his impaling charge, will never land on anyone who is paying attention to you. Even impaling riposte is inconsistent and can be blocked. All of his unblockable attacks are too telegraphed and slow to hit anyone. His shove is, unfortunately, just a reset, as he has no actual followups. He can't effectively open someone up either, as, again, his only tools to do so are either incredibly inconsistent, easy to avoid/counter, or don't have any followups.

[BamnMcNoice]

引用自 Csx39 YT：

Blockshove stops those, yes, but ultimately does nothing. A light followup can be dodged/deflected and a gb could be countered.

Not to mention you can still be hit whilst shoving by quick follow up attacks. Shoving after block, you can still be hit by cent's second heavy, lb's light after heavy, zerk's light after heavy, and a few others. Particularly characters that have a 500ms attack after a heavy. So it's anything but infallible at stopping combos.

[strike478]

引用自 ⇋Kaz⇌：

Ubi pls, all I ask is for more hyperarmor or a faster opener

If he had better offensive he would be strongest hero in the game.

[Starwight/ttv]

引用自 ⇋Kaz⇌：

Ubi pls, all I ask is for more hyperarmor or a faster opener

You haven't played Valkrie yet, have you good sir?

[Sack of Wet Mice]

引用自 alonesilverwolf：

引用自 ⇋Kaz⇌：

Ubi pls, all I ask is for more hyperarmor or a faster opener

You haven't played Valkrie yet, have you good sir?

(Alright, worst is a bit of an exaggeration) I have actually. You’d think she’d be a bit stronger being a meme hero, but no

[Dirty Red]

引用自 IVIalicious 🧕💣💥👌：

引用自 Csx39 YT：

He’s not the worst

Valk warden shugoki are lower than lb

Shug has hyperarmor.

Valk doesn't have attacks that are slow as all hell and still has more offensive moves than LB does.

It's purely opinion but knowing this, i'd say LB is indeed the worst hero in 1v1s.

Have you played valk at all? Her heavies are horrendously slow and do minimal damage. Her lights can be parried on reaction and are probably the weakest single hits in the game (barring stuff that can do multiple guaranteed hits, like Berserker's zone, or orochi top light). Her shield bash, unless it knocks a player down (which requires charging it), doesn't guarantee a light, snd her spear sweep can be dodged on reaction and is a guaranteed gb from the opponent if they dodge it. Sorry, but trying to say lb is worse than valkyrie is objectively wrong and demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the character.

I think lb should be rebalanced, but he is 3rd or 4th in terms of needing it. His strongest attacks come from parries, which are still relatively easy to get.

[Dirty Red]

引用自 ⇋Kaz⇌：

引用自 Explicable：

Lol he is amazing in 1v1. Actually one of the best if you know how to use him. Don't blame Ubi for your lack of skill. xD

I’m rep 18 with him, if you’re going against people that know what they’re doing it can be difficult to get any damage in. Whereas using Glad, I can typically get an easy 3-0. I can do the same with LB, but that usually involves blockshove > light spam or parry baiting constantly, otherwise known as turtle.avi. If you were actually competent though, you’d give a reason why he’s so “amazing” in a 1v1 scenario

Not saying he is amazing, but he has the most devastating light parry punishes in the game, which is still a core mechanic for high level players.