Is Vortiger OP?

[TemperedFangs]

Is it just me or is Vortiger really broken? it may just be because i have no clue how to fight him but he has the best all block and counter in the game, gets superior block on a ton of attacks, so many undodgeable attacks that assassins just run from this edge lord. not to mention all the master tracking shield bashes and shield bash mix ups. pleas some one tell me how to fight this hero im dieing over here lol

[Trusty Patches]

well hes pretty stupid because you cant hit him after he misses a bash and he can use his bash after when you block his attacks in oos iirc but the first part is a thing still for some reason

[Derrame]

no, he i slow
just dodge the shield bash, just like any other character

[Trusty Patches]

Originally posted by Derrame:

no, he i slow
just dodge the shield bash, just like any other character

he i slow ?????

[Nobody410]

Yes.
How win again vortinger ?
Uninstall For Honnor.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Derrame:

no, he i slow
just dodge the shield bash, just like any other character

No, he is overpowered.

Speed isn't how you justify a characters strength.

Look at Nobushi, Lawbringer, and even Warden. What's strong about them isn't speed. Its there punish, mind games, and ability to be punished.

Vortiger is overpowered because his bash has 500 ms recovery. I've said it since he came out. Needs to be 700.

Combine that with tracking heavies that track range, not just side, and you have a very stupid character called Vortiger.

Also his crushing counter lights feel like they have a larger timing than others. Don't know if its true though.

[Antik]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

Originally posted by Derrame:

no, he i slow
just dodge the shield bash, just like any other character

No, he is overpowered.

Speed isn't how you justify a characters strength.

Look at Nobushi, Lawbringer, and even Warden. What's strong about them isn't speed. Its there punish, mind games, and ability to be punished.

Vortiger is overpowered because his bash has 500 ms recovery. I've said it since he came out. Needs to be 700.

Combine that with tracking heavies that track range, not just side, and you have a very stupid character called Vortiger.

Also his crushing counter lights feel like they have a larger timing than others. Don't know if its true though.

Lights have 300ms active Superior Block, for comparison, Highlander has 300ms as well and WL has 200ms.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by Antik:

Originally posted by Spartacus:

No, he is overpowered.

Speed isn't how you justify a characters strength.

Look at Nobushi, Lawbringer, and even Warden. What's strong about them isn't speed. Its there punish, mind games, and ability to be punished.

Vortiger is overpowered because his bash has 500 ms recovery. I've said it since he came out. Needs to be 700.

Combine that with tracking heavies that track range, not just side, and you have a very stupid character called Vortiger.

Also his crushing counter lights feel like they have a larger timing than others. Don't know if its true though.

Lights have 300ms active Superior Block, for comparison, Highlander has 300ms as well and WL has 200ms.

Highlanders lights are also what? 600 ms? They should have 300 ms timer. Why does Vortiger have that.

[Antik]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

Originally posted by Antik:

Lights have 300ms active Superior Block, for comparison, Highlander has 300ms as well and WL has 200ms.

Highlanders lights are also what? 600 ms? They should have 300 ms timer. Why does Vortiger have that.

No idea, they do less damage than other lights when Superior Block was used (from 15 to 20, HL gets from 15 to 30).

On a side note, if they decide to remove the 200ms extra recovery when switching guard as static guard, these Vortiger lights will become super annoying to deal with if he mixes them up with normal paries, basically making heavy into GB a gamble, is he going to try and parry or simply superior block?

[TemperedFangs]

well at least its not just me that thinks this hero is insane right now. i mean Warlord is already a great hero. Vortiger feels like Warlord with a huge buff

[maan]

well yes but actually no

[fluffle puff]

Originally posted by TemperedFangs:

well at least its not just me that thinks this hero is insane right now. i mean Warlord is already a great hero. Vortiger feels like Warlord with a huge buff

exactly