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Crash Aug 28, 2019 @ 9:34am
Rock, paper & scissors
I remember way back then, when this game was released. All the memes, all the people talking about and all. Back then i saw a meme refering the game as rock, paper and scissors with good visuals. And when i got the game to play about last year and remember this meme, i though "wtf, what about that is rock, paper and scissors?"
But man, I feel this game is going towards that description lately, with all those bashes that can pretty much be feinted on something else, and you gotta guess witch attack is coming. Cause they are fast and, at least for me, i can't react to these, i have to guess.
It feels a lot like a game of rock, papaer and scissors now, especially against Jormungandr.
This thread is pretty much just me venting about the estate of the game. Do whatever you will with this thread, not gonna really follow it, just throw it to be destroyed by the comunity, with my frustrations in it. Have fun.
Last edited by Crash; Aug 28, 2019 @ 9:35am
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The Faceless Man Aug 28, 2019 @ 10:16am 
The meta has not really changed. The game is largely Rock, Paper, Scissors even now.

While that comparison suggests the game is entirely "guessing", it isn't exactly. "Guessing" just happens to be a large part of it. If you were to take the game of Rock, Paper, Scissors in whole as two people shaking their fists and coming up with a result, you have to factor in the other subtler conditions that go with that. Example: How much delay on the 3rd fist shake between you and your opponent is considered acceptable before revealing Rock, Paper, or Scissors? Does your opponent have tells when they move? Do they tend to pick Scissors next after they've picked Rock?

Same principle applies to this game: Which direction are they going to attack from? Are they going to attack, bash, or guard-break? Parry beats Attack, Paper beats Rock, Dodge beats Bash, and Scissors beats Paper.

The meta still applies today, and I suspect it is the root of the problem with Ubisoft's failed attempts at balancing the game. It is very difficult to balance a game with a limited number of moves with very little variance. Their attempts to add that "variance" with moves such as shoulder-bash being "charged", or allowing a degree of delay before shield-bash or kick in a combo, tends to upset a lot of players whose favorite hero does not possess that variance with their moves. Some of these heroes that got reworks never got any variation to their moves, and instead they simply increased the speed of their light attacks (lawbringer + raider). This ends up supporting the meta, rather than breaking free of it.
czech Aug 28, 2019 @ 11:20am 
Jorm is by far one of the worst heroes in the game and imo destroys all your credibility. He lacks depth and everything can be reacted to.
Last edited by czech; Aug 28, 2019 @ 11:20am
shower speedrunner Aug 28, 2019 @ 12:20pm 
It still is Rock Paper Scissor, but it has more layers now.
Study it a bit and you find your place again.
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Date Posted: Aug 28, 2019 @ 9:34am
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