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Clor May 3, 2017 @ 5:17am
What exactly is a 50/50?
Is it a situation where the attacker can do 1 of 2 moves, and the defender needs to guess because they won't have enough time to react once the move starts?
Could someone confirm I've got the definition right, and maybe give an example?
Thanks
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FerroBorne May 3, 2017 @ 5:36am 
you're wrong, 50/50 is the situation when i toss a coin and its either head or tail, its called 50/50 for that reason.
Zath May 3, 2017 @ 5:39am 
Lawbringers shove. Is he going to poke you or is he going to GB? Are you going to dodge or are you going to CGB? 50/50
JoeBlack May 3, 2017 @ 5:42am 
It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Clor May 3, 2017 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Zatharax:
Lawbringers shove. Is he going to poke you or is he going to GB? Are you going to dodge or are you going to CGB? 50/50
Gotcha, thanks.
Paradox (Banned) May 3, 2017 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Clorthisberger:
Originally posted by Zatharax:
Lawbringers shove. Is he going to poke you or is he going to GB? Are you going to dodge or are you going to CGB? 50/50
Gotcha, thanks.
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.
Saint Landwalker May 3, 2017 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Paradox:
Originally posted by Clorthisberger:
Gotcha, thanks.
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.
That depends, of course. For some people, their reaction time might not allow them to "counter" the LB on reaction in that scenario. For them, it really is a 50/50.
Рафнсвартр (Banned) May 3, 2017 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Paradox:
Originally posted by Clorthisberger:
Gotcha, thanks.
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.

i highely doubt that heavy classes can dodge it on reaction. Playing as Warlord i can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge ♥♥♥♥ sometimes even if i see it coming, but when i play berserker - i have a lot more options and dodge-window
Paradox (Banned) May 3, 2017 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by ;1327844097109421605:
Originally posted by Paradox:
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.
That depends, of course. For some people, their reaction time might not allow them to "counter" the LB on reaction in that scenario. For them, it really is a 50/50.
True. There is a trick, if you are a bit slower on reaction. Make sure you are blocking in the direction it is coming and even if it hits you, cuz you dodged too late, you will still block it.
Originally posted by Ulfhednar:
Originally posted by Paradox:
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.

i highely doubt that heavy classes can dodge it on reaction. Playing as Warlord i can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge ♥♥♥♥ sometimes even if i see it coming, but when i play berserker - i have a lot more options and dodge-window

They can. It's actually easier for me than a conq shield bash, because you don't have to hit dodge quite as early and because you know it may be coming right after a shove, it's much easier to anticipate.

Last edited by Paradox; May 3, 2017 @ 11:10am
Originally posted by Ulfhednar:
Originally posted by Paradox:
lawbringer isn't exactly a 50/50, because you can react based on what he does. If you see the light you still have time to dodge, dodge+block, or deflect. If you don't see the light, you can CGB.

It's a true 50/50, to my understanding, when it's forced, when the only real way to avoid things is to roll away. When it's a literal guessing game.

i highely doubt that heavy classes can dodge it on reaction. Playing as Warlord i can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge ♥♥♥♥ sometimes even if i see it coming, but when i play berserker - i have a lot more options and dodge-window
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOR1AsQ_gg

they can.
Рафнсвартр (Banned) May 3, 2017 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Deadly.Crystal.Lizard:
Originally posted by Ulfhednar:

i highely doubt that heavy classes can dodge it on reaction. Playing as Warlord i can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge ♥♥♥♥ sometimes even if i see it coming, but when i play berserker - i have a lot more options and dodge-window
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOR1AsQ_gg

they can.

hm...
Last edited by Рафнсвартр; May 3, 2017 @ 11:22am
goyzzz counter strike and halo are 50/50 i cant handle it anymore i move left i move right i get shot omg omg
Dezmundo May 3, 2017 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Clorthisberger:
Is it a situation where the attacker can do 1 of 2 moves, and the defender needs to guess because they won't have enough time to react once the move starts?
Could someone confirm I've got the definition right, and maybe give an example?
Thanks

50/50 is a terminology used in fighting games. It is used when your opponent puts you into a disadvantage with the option for you to get out of that disadvantage based on your guess. If you guess right some fighting games puts you at Neutral, meaning you and your opponent is basically back at "start" some games actulally puts you in frame advantage if you guess right making the 50/50 option a risk in itself. Tekken is a perfect example for this however there are a lot of situations in that game where mindgames is the only way to win, thus 50/50 is a more that viable option. I get why For Honor devs like it but the implementation is very bad. In general you have to "achieve" your 50/50 using Tekken as an example again (Bryan has to carry you to the wall to use his taunt mix up effectively or King has to grab you first to be able to do the multithrow 50/50)
Marius Sangue May 10, 2017 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by Azrael:
you're wrong, 50/50 is the situation when i toss a coin and its either head or tail, its called 50/50 for that reason.


Umm...that's exactly what he said. Idiot.
FerroBorne May 10, 2017 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Marius Sangue:
Umm...that's exactly what he said. Idiot.

Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- William "SucmyDinky" Shakespeare -
Marius Sangue May 14, 2017 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Azrael:
Originally posted by Marius Sangue:
Umm...that's exactly what he said. Idiot.

Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
- William "SucmyDinky" Shakespeare -

Wow, your inteliigence is unparalleled. Please tell me more!
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