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The Toast of Kyiv 2017 年 4 月 29 日 上午 11:40
Would it have killed ya to give Centurion a shield?
Look, we all obviously realize he's modelled after a Roman Army Centurion. Guess what they had?. A gladius (nailed it) and a SHIELD (NOT NAILED) we realize this game throws historical accuracy out of the window too (even though his execution is modelled after a Gladiator's battle victory) but the little things like this boil my piss. If you're gonna do it, at least do it right.
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steal_TH-9 2017 年 4 月 29 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 Macaroni Burger
引用自 Whoowee
Just let my boy punch things
Exactly. We need a dude who aint afraid to punch. All these pansies relying on their weapons, smh. What wusses.
Falcon Punch.
skaels_TTV 2017 年 5 月 1 日 下午 3:03 
we need a monk with iron chains wrapped around his wrists

edit: all his attacks should be parry/dodge into free gb with light damage, and make him a disabler
最後修改者:skaels_TTV; 2017 年 5 月 1 日 下午 3:17
Skog 2017 年 5 月 1 日 下午 3:13 
引用自 rainonthemountains
we need a monk with iron chains wrapped around his wrists
+1
steal_TH-9 2017 年 5 月 1 日 下午 5:08 
引用自 Skogkatt
引用自 rainonthemountains
we need a monk with iron chains wrapped around his wrists
+1
No, I want a monk with a staff, so I can play Sun Wukong (or since Samurais are Japanese, Son Goku).
Emrys of Ailliau 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 2:51 
I have just about had it with this game. first off I bought it because they advertised it as having cross platform multiplayer (Lie)
I didnt get a refund immediately because I sort of liked the conqueror (Nerfed ish /no variety/no heavy parry punish)

I didnt give up and quit because I held out hope that the centurion would be good. (its not its just a gladiator pretending to be one)

Over all I think shields are under and mis-represented in this game and taking one of the few classes that by nature should have had a shield and turning it into what we have today as the "Centurion" should be a punishable crime. Btw ubisoft Phalanx is a Greek formation that the Romans abandoned in favor of the Maniple, but the word you probably want is testudo which means turtle lol and ironically all of these require a shield, go figure.

The anti "turtleing" stance that ubisoft has taken has resulted in an unfair gank festival with an entire legion of "Centurions" knocking people on the ground and then jumping on them. no where to run no where to hide no way to block/dodge/counter. I swear to god the game was more balanced at launch than it is now.

And as I spend my entire stockpile of 20k steel and 10 or so boxes trying to re- equip and re-costume my conqueror with this games random gear dropping, rarity upgrade, micro-transaction encouraging bul/♥♥♥♥♥ and getting the same wrong gear over and over again I question why I am even playing this game at all given its flawless history of disappointments.

Thank you all for reading my rant and Maybe I will see you in the game.
0utous 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 2:57 
Not everyone used shield.
The Toast of Kyiv 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:07 
引用自 Emrys of Ailliau
I have just about had it with this game. first off I bought it because they advertised it as having cross platform multiplayer (Lie)
I didnt get a refund immediately because I sort of liked the conqueror (Nerfed ish /no variety/no heavy parry punish)

I didnt give up and quit because I held out hope that the centurion would be good. (its not its just a gladiator pretending to be one)

Over all I think shields are under and mis-represented in this game and taking one of the few classes that by nature should have had a shield and turning it into what we have today as the "Centurion" should be a punishable crime. Btw ubisoft Phalanx is a Greek formation that the Romans abandoned in favor of the Maniple, but the word you probably want is testudo which means turtle lol and ironically all of these require a shield, go figure.

The anti "turtleing" stance that ubisoft has taken has resulted in an unfair gank festival with an entire legion of "Centurions" knocking people on the ground and then jumping on them. no where to run no where to hide no way to block/dodge/counter. I swear to god the game was more balanced at launch than it is now.

And as I spend my entire stockpile of 20k steel and 10 or so boxes trying to re- equip and re-costume my conqueror with this games random gear dropping, rarity upgrade, micro-transaction encouraging bul/♥♥♥♥♥ and getting the same wrong gear over and over again I question why I am even playing this game at all given its flawless history of disappointments.

Thank you all for reading my rant and Maybe I will see you in the game.

Heh, well your rant brought this thread back from the dead so there's something. Lol, and tbh, i agree with all of your points. It is BLATANTLY obvious that the "Centurion" is inspired from the Roman Centurion, they way they mis-represent him in-game is atrocious. They gave him the ego and personality the size of a skyscraper on top of stupid crap that a Roman Centurion never would have done unless disarmed of his shield (which didn't happen that often, if a Roman soldier or even Centurion dropped his gear in the heat of battle and it was saw by a higher-ranking officer, the one that dropped his gear most likely would have recieved about 20 lashes to the back for it. The Roman Army was the most disciplined fighting force in the entire world at the height of the Roman Empire.) Not to mention his gladiator-like executions which are meant to be cool and show-off and embarass the victim. (which doesn't make the toxcicity in the community any better.)

But on top of everything, the moron who decided that p2p connections which rely on the player's connection to keep the whole match running in a fighting game really killed it off for me, i play For Honor every once in a while to see if it changes much. And quite frankly, it hasn't. Still the same BS day after day, no wonder the game is half dead already.
最後修改者:The Toast of Kyiv; 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:08
Starwight/ttv (已封鎖) 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:26 
引用自 BrickHowse
The thumb thing isn't historical, just saying. But I think a shield would've worked, if it was more used for offense rather than another heavy defender (turtle).

Actually it was. In the gladiator days, when someone was victorious the individual(s) would look to the Roman emperor to see if he wanted them to kill or not kill. If the emporer gave a thumbs up, it meant spare the combatants life. If it was thumbs down, it meant to kill them.
Dezmundo 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:34 


引用自 Emrys of Ailliau
I have just about had it with this game. first off I bought it because they advertised it as having cross platform multiplayer (Lie)
I didnt get a refund immediately because I sort of liked the conqueror (Nerfed ish /no variety/no heavy parry punish)

I didnt give up and quit because I held out hope that the centurion would be good. (its not its just a gladiator pretending to be one)

Over all I think shields are under and mis-represented in this game and taking one of the few classes that by nature should have had a shield and turning it into what we have today as the "Centurion" should be a punishable crime. Btw ubisoft Phalanx is a Greek formation that the Romans abandoned in favor of the Maniple, but the word you probably want is testudo which means turtle lol and ironically all of these require a shield, go figure.

The anti "turtleing" stance that ubisoft has taken has resulted in an unfair gank festival with an entire legion of "Centurions" knocking people on the ground and then jumping on them. no where to run no where to hide no way to block/dodge/counter. I swear to god the game was more balanced at launch than it is now.

And as I spend my entire stockpile of 20k steel and 10 or so boxes trying to re- equip and re-costume my conqueror with this games random gear dropping, rarity upgrade, micro-transaction encouraging bul/♥♥♥♥♥ and getting the same wrong gear over and over again I question why I am even playing this game at all given its flawless history of disappointments.

Thank you all for reading my rant and Maybe I will see you in the game.


Aw come on man! If this game was historically more accurate Lawbringer would be undefeated. You have to apply a suspension of disbelief and treat it as duels of demigod warriors. Plus using a shield as you would in real life would make characters like Berserker and PK absolutely useless.
最後修改者:Dezmundo; 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:34
The Toast of Kyiv 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 3:58 
引用自 lights1985
引用自 Emrys of Ailliau
I have just about had it with this game. first off I bought it because they advertised it as having cross platform multiplayer (Lie)
I didnt get a refund immediately because I sort of liked the conqueror (Nerfed ish /no variety/no heavy parry punish)

I didnt give up and quit because I held out hope that the centurion would be good. (its not its just a gladiator pretending to be one)

Over all I think shields are under and mis-represented in this game and taking one of the few classes that by nature should have had a shield and turning it into what we have today as the "Centurion" should be a punishable crime. Btw ubisoft Phalanx is a Greek formation that the Romans abandoned in favor of the Maniple, but the word you probably want is testudo which means turtle lol and ironically all of these require a shield, go figure.

The anti "turtleing" stance that ubisoft has taken has resulted in an unfair gank festival with an entire legion of "Centurions" knocking people on the ground and then jumping on them. no where to run no where to hide no way to block/dodge/counter. I swear to god the game was more balanced at launch than it is now.

And as I spend my entire stockpile of 20k steel and 10 or so boxes trying to re- equip and re-costume my conqueror with this games random gear dropping, rarity upgrade, micro-transaction encouraging bul/♥♥♥♥♥ and getting the same wrong gear over and over again I question why I am even playing this game at all given its flawless history of disappointments.

Thank you all for reading my rant and Maybe I will see you in the game.


Aw come on man! If this game was historically more accurate Lawbringer would be undefeated. You have to apply a suspension of disbelief and treat it as duels of demigod warriors. Plus using a shield as you would in real life would make characters like Berserker and PK absolutely useless.

Have you ever played a game called "Chivalry Medieval Warfare"?. You can get shields and you can pick a character class which is basically the same as LB, all suited up in armour and slow as hell. He also has slow attacks. You use him with a shield and a faster character comes along and he's going to ♥♥♥♥ your ♥♥♥♥ up. Why?, because he's a hell of a lot faster than you and shields don't mean jack if the attack is fast enough to hit you before you raise it.

That game is the most realistic fighting game i've seen to date so that kinda proves the point that heavy armour and shields don't mean much. Sure they're a nice bonus to defense but what defense is there when it can be penetrated by someone that doesn't swing their weapon like a truck.

Plus you never saw anyone on steroids and suited up with the armour of a battleship in real life did you?. Or if you did it was rare, it's because it was cumbersome and like i said, people were a lot faster than you.
最後修改者:The Toast of Kyiv; 2017 年 5 月 19 日 上午 4:00
Emrys of Ailliau 2017 年 5 月 19 日 下午 2:10 
To those above who seem to think I want the game to be historically accurate, no that is not at all what I am saying. what I am saying is that to have a total of 3 characters with shields and 14 characters without shields is greatly misrepresenting their value in melee combat. It alienates those of us who do in fact like shields.

Knights, whose faction is iconically associated with the shield only have one among their ranks.

one only needs to look at the Valkyrie to know that just because you have a shield dosnt have to mean you are permanently assigned to defense.

For those of you who say the scutum shield is to big it would be unfair. well clearly yes it is big but with the fighting mechanics of the game the Valkyries shield is capable of blocking 360 degrees of attack while standing still and a kensei can block a conquerors flail. so the ability to block has nothing at all to do with how big your blocking device is, just that you happen to have your guard in the right position.

When worse comes to worse Rome also has several other shields to choose from.

and honestly for those precious few players just joining the game the centurion as is is pretty unfair to fight against.

I myself am in the middle tier not good but not bad either and i cannot deal with the stun special effect or really the revenge special effect. plus all the feat special effects. it wreaks havoc on my eyes and i cant even tell what my own character is doing much less the enemy.

over all with the centurion going all Spartacus and a gladiator i hear going to be the final knight character with a net and trident I am sufficiently disappointed to quit playing although i will check back to see what love the conqueror gets.
Galloglaigh 2017 年 5 月 19 日 下午 2:14 
He is based off of Maximus from Galdiator. The name has little to do with the actual playstyle.
Krono 2017 年 5 月 19 日 下午 2:14 
引用自 Emrys of Ailliau
To those above who seem to think I want the game to be historically accurate, no that is not at all what I am saying. what I am saying is that to have a total of 3 characters with shields and 14 characters without shields is greatly misrepresenting their value in melee combat. It alienates those of us who do in fact like shields.
That's all fine and dandy, but try to look at it from a gameplay perspective. What could they do with a shield that they haven't already done? Give him a shield ba- oh wait. All directional blo- oh wait. Let him move with all directional blo- oh wait. Attack after a blo- oh wait.
Emrys of Ailliau 2017 年 5 月 19 日 下午 2:52 
well they could always let them use the shield as a weapon. where bashing and smashing with it does decent damage and stun instead of just being a push mechanic. they could also make heavy attacks get stuck in the shield for a punish or maybe even a disarm. a lot of the centurions punch moves could be altered to work with a shield, who knows maybe even implement a shield wall team tactic or an auto defense against the bow and arrow bull which is still hanging around. there are many many more as yet unexplored avenues of shield use .
UbiJurassic  [開發人員] 2017 年 5 月 19 日 下午 5:52 
During one of our streams, we had our art team come on to discuss the design decisions of the new heroes and this question was brought up to them. You can listen to their answer here.
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