Shinobi and his hyper armor

[Yar?n]

Literally the only reason Shinobi is viable is the hyper armor he gets on his kick. If he didn't have that, he'd be trash tier. Think about it.

[DeNev]

Origineel geplaatst door Bibble Bob:

Literally the only reason Shinobi is viable is the hyper armor he gets on his kick. If he didn't have that, he'd be trash tier. Think about it.

His light attacks are pretty fast and you get a guaranteed second hit if you hit the first one. People can dodge your kick so yeah without that he is pretty average if not lower tier.

[Rodi]

His kicks raised the cancer level of the game to a whole new level. Hyper armor and if you dodge it, guess what? You don't get a free GB. Ubisoft should have learned by now that bashes/shoves/sweeps should always give a free GB if dodged...

[Starwight/ttv]

Origineel geplaatst door Rodi:

His kicks raised the cancer level of the game to a whole new level. Hyper armor and if you dodge it, guess what? You don't get a free GB. Ubisoft should have learned by now that bashes/shoves/sweeps should always give a free GB if dodged...

All this whining about not getting a free GB if you dodge the kick is stupid. You CAN LITTERALLY KILL A SHINOBI IN 2-3 HITS!

You try playing him to any effectiveness, and still tell me he needs nerfed!!

[Rodi]

Origineel geplaatst door alonesilverwolf:

Origineel geplaatst door Rodi:

His kicks raised the cancer level of the game to a whole new level. Hyper armor and if you dodge it, guess what? You don't get a free GB. Ubisoft should have learned by now that bashes/shoves/sweeps should always give a free GB if dodged...

All this whining about not getting a free GB if you dodge the kick is stupid. You CAN LITTERALLY KILL A SHINOBI IN 2-3 HITS!

You try playing him to any effectiveness, and still tell me he needs nerfed!!

All this talk about Shinobi getting killed in 2-3 hits is stupid. You can't kill what you can't hit.

[Charlememe]

Origineel geplaatst door alonesilverwolf:

Origineel geplaatst door Rodi:

His kicks raised the cancer level of the game to a whole new level. Hyper armor and if you dodge it, guess what? You don't get a free GB. Ubisoft should have learned by now that bashes/shoves/sweeps should always give a free GB if dodged...

All this whining about not getting a free GB if you dodge the kick is stupid. You CAN LITTERALLY KILL A SHINOBI IN 2-3 HITS!

You try playing him to any effectiveness, and still tell me he needs nerfed!!

He can just kick and kick without getting punished, and that kick can't be traded with effectively, so there's no way to stop it or counter it. If you're competent at the game and it's a 1v1, then all you need to do is kick until the opponent misses a dodge. They should either allow for the guardbreak or any kind of punish or remove the hyperarmor.

[Starwight/ttv]

Origineel geplaatst door The Senate:

Origineel geplaatst door alonesilverwolf:

All this whining about not getting a free GB if you dodge the kick is stupid. You CAN LITTERALLY KILL A SHINOBI IN 2-3 HITS!

You try playing him to any effectiveness, and still tell me he needs nerfed!!

He can just kick and kick without getting punished, and that kick can't be traded with effectively, so there's no way to stop it or counter it. If you're competent at the game and it's a 1v1, then all you need to do is kick until the opponent misses a dodge. They should either allow for the guardbreak or any kind of punish or remove the hyperarmor.

Says the guy who probably has never played him before. I get punished all the time. Parry him, he is dead. CGB him, which is SUPER easy, btw--he is dead. Dodge his kick and actually attack, at worst he blocks you or dodges away. His double dodge eats a lot of stamina, so do his combos.

Stop crying about the character, give it a few weeks or so until you've fought enough of them to learn to counter. OR play the damn character so you learn his moves, once you do, it will be a lot easier TO counter for you. That's what I did with PK and Zerker.

[Finiks]

It's so easy to kill a shinobi just stay back when he come.close light. When he dash near u gb ( the gb even follow) cgb or parry a attack/gb and he fly down on his face. Even a shugoki is harder then a shinobi atm. Especially cause everything from the range is extremely punishable

[Starwight/ttv]

Origineel geplaatst door Finiks:

It's so easy to kill a shinobi just stay back when he come.close light. When he dash near u gb ( the gb even follow) cgb or parry a attack/gb and he fly down on his face. Even a shugoki is harder then a shinobi atm. Especially cause everything from the range is extremely punishable

Yeah. I have noticed, playing as Shinobi, that if I try anything from a distance, even someone halfway competent can shut me down there, forcing me to close the distance. And then, if I do, all he has to do is trade with me, or manage a parry, and I'm as good as dead.

[Charlememe]

Origineel geplaatst door alonesilverwolf:

Origineel geplaatst door The Senate:

He can just kick and kick without getting punished, and that kick can't be traded with effectively, so there's no way to stop it or counter it. If you're competent at the game and it's a 1v1, then all you need to do is kick until the opponent misses a dodge. They should either allow for the guardbreak or any kind of punish or remove the hyperarmor.

Says the guy who probably has never played him before. I get punished all the time. Parry him, he is dead. CGB him, which is SUPER easy, btw--he is dead. Dodge his kick and actually attack, at worst he blocks you or dodges away. His double dodge eats a lot of stamina, so do his combos.

Stop crying about the character, give it a few weeks or so until you've fought enough of them to learn to counter. OR play the damn character so you learn his moves, once you do, it will be a lot easier TO counter for you. That's what I did with PK and Zerker.

No ♥♥♥♥ . I play LB, so if I parry anyone they're probably dead or nearly. I'm talking specifically about the kick being unpunishable and having hyperarmor, making it the best push in the game easily, except maybe the warden's shoulderbash. It should either have no hyperarmor or be punishable with a gb or at least a light.