The Beginner's Guide

The Beginner's Guide

Leaf Dec 28, 2018 @ 2:38am
What happened to Coda?
Did he ever start making games again? Did he find something new? Was the developer of this collection really the one experiencing confusion and depression?

I'm confused.
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Tequila Sunset Dec 29, 2018 @ 1:36am 
It's entirely fictional.
If this were real, the creator would have commited a crime.
petmypaw Dec 29, 2018 @ 2:36pm 
oh, there's been a crime committed allright.
IB Dec 31, 2018 @ 5:48am 
in the games *FICTIONAL* story, I like to think that Coda continues to make games after leaving Davey, because by the looks of things, the reason Coda stops is because he feels like hes creating games FOR Davey rather than what he wants to make, evident from the notes in the tower reading "Sometimes I feel like i'm making these games for you" and "it is possible that I did begin planting solutions somewhere, hidden between games", so with Davey out of the picture, he can go back to making the games that he wants, rather than the deeper meaning Davey Wreden wants out of Codas games.
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nachums Dec 31, 2018 @ 7:43am 
Coda is Davey, he talks about it in his blog, the reasons following the Stanley Parable. Given that Davey did then continue to make games (some pretty odd ones too), you could say Coda continues to make games.

Within the context of the game itself, the point isn't whether Coda continues, the point is that he never wanted them shared, and we shouldn't/wouldn't know if he did continue.
Leaf Dec 31, 2018 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by nachums:
Coda is Davey, he talks about it in his blog, the reasons following the Stanley Parable. Given that Davey did then continue to make games (some pretty odd ones too), you could say Coda continues to make games.

Within the context of the game itself, the point isn't whether Coda continues, the point is that he never wanted them shared, and we shouldn't/wouldn't know if he did continue.

Didn't Davey say that Coda was him with a cough at the start of the game?
tukkek Jan 1, 2019 @ 6:06pm 
Saying that Davey is (exactly the same) as Coda is missing the point of the entire game. Cool!
nachums Jan 2, 2019 @ 12:23am 
Davey expressed himself in the game through both characters, they're both Davey.

In the actual game, I didn't hear the bit about being the same, I thought they were separated.

It's essentially about Davey's need for praise following the massive attention which the Stanley parable got, how he became addicted to that praise, doing every interview offered and eventually had to find what made him happy. Coda is the improved self, because he does things just for his own satisfaction rather than to please everyone.
LeROY Jan 6, 2019 @ 9:06pm 
Why did I think Coda was Asian:ThinkingYellowFace::wotm8:
Phi Feb 16, 2019 @ 8:30pm 
Originally posted by Genki:
It's entirely fictional.
If this were real, the creator would have commited a crime.

Perhaps that is the point. He could have genuinely stolen someone's work and know that the real life Coda would be too reclusive and ashamed to come forward.

The grand irony being that Davey claims to have "only" put out his work to contact Coda again, and yet, this game costs 10 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dollars, which means he is profiting off of another man's work. And hypothetically, if this story is indeed fictional, Davey using his best friend's private video games to make money on Steam is a contradiction to everything he was trying to achieve with compiling The Beginner's Guide.

It does not make sense within the in-game narrative, nor is it admirable in the real world.
Obsi Berithos Feb 25, 2019 @ 6:03am 
I sure hope Coda is fictional--cuz if he's not, he's a turd.
Leaf Mar 11, 2019 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Phi:
Originally posted by Genki:
It's entirely fictional.
If this were real, the creator would have commited a crime.

Perhaps that is the point. He could have genuinely stolen someone's work and know that the real life Coda would be too reclusive and ashamed to come forward.

The grand irony being that Davey claims to have "only" put out his work to contact Coda again, and yet, this game costs 10 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dollars, which means he is profiting off of another man's work. And hypothetically, if this story is indeed fictional, Davey using his best friend's private video games to make money on Steam is a contradiction to everything he was trying to achieve with compiling The Beginner's Guide.

It does not make sense within the in-game narrative, nor is it admirable in the real world.

Not really a contradiction. You have to make money somehow.
ph1ll1s Mar 11, 2019 @ 11:14pm 
"coda" means "tail" in italien. btw... what a genius...
nachums Mar 12, 2019 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by 460p2:
"coda" means "tail" in italien. btw... what a genius...

Why genius? I'm not connecting the dots
FlavoredTortilla Mar 14, 2019 @ 7:33pm 

Originally posted by nachums:
Originally posted by 460p2:
"coda" means "tail" in italien. btw... what a genius...

Why genius? I'm not connecting the dots

He's chasing his tail.
ZMannZilla Mar 15, 2019 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by John Frek:
Originally posted by nachums:

Why genius? I'm not connecting the dots

He's chasing his tail.

Nice interpretation, I like that.

I have kind of a more verbose, slightly pretentious theory about the name Coda, kind of related to yours:

In language, a "coda" is sort of like an optional epilogue that's unnecessary to the story's completion, but is still somewhat related. For example, if I told a story about how I got a flat tire and Jeff Goldblum pulled over to help me fix it, a coda for that story might be "A year later I saw Jeff at a con and he remembered me." It's named after a musical term for a little flourish added to the end of a musical piece that isn't thematically related to the rest of the song. The song doesn't strictly speaking need it to be complete, yet the creator of the music felt their music piece was incomplete without it.

Basically, a coda is an embellishment added to the end of a work.

Kind of like the lamp posts Davey kept adding to the end of Coda's games...

I also feel like the Epilogue chapter of TBG represents Davey finally getting his own "coda" and feeling complete as a result. See, the Epilogue chapter is in the same spot as a coda, and the player wanders mostly through settings that aren't represented anywhere else in the game (train stations, mansion, cave, ancient ruins, etc), so just like a coda in music or language, it's a thematically incongruous embellishment. The whole thing then ends at the Whisper "glitch" that ostensibly inspired Coda originally - only this time it goes completely without explanation, following Coda's final instruction, don't say anything. It is here that the coda is added and the piece "feels" complete..

So yeah, John Frek said it much quicker - he's chasing his tail. And I think in a way he catches it. :)
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