"NVME SSD Storage required"

[RedoLane]

Welp, I have a SATA III SSD.
looks like I'm screwed.

[Illasera]

Origineel geplaatst door EvaUnit02:

Are the dudes with 20 year old CPUs (eg Core 2 Quads), who whine about games requiring more recent instruction sets, still around?

This is where bad science begins...

Do you know how powerful an intel CPU from 20 years ago was?
how much is supporting "The latest and greatest AVX2" actually helps?
any profiling tests with or without it?

what if the reason you need a NEW CPU is because there is some bad code in ID tech 8 that needs to be stupidly brute forced by the CPU which means higher clock speed.

could also be tons of data that needlessly gets swapped in and out which requires bigger CPU cache...

point is; none of you ever thought about questioning ID software or any other game developer, Yes ; you should buy a new CPU, IF EXPLAINED PROPERLY WHY and why there is no other way.

*Consider demakes and the magic they produce on the crappiest hardware ever; you guys need to question things instead of blindly buying into the bigger number in the newest year.

[tfa]

Origineel geplaatst door Memoroid:

Can't see any problem in non-NVME storages. You'll just get longer level loading times, right?

This game might be using Direct Storage which is supposed to not only improve load times but increase performance. Forspoken actually has a small framerate increase with NVME over Sata. Maybe this is using Direct Storage on a higher level or maybe the reqs are a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5m1_A08JQ

[Illasera]

Origineel geplaatst door tpowl1400:

FF 7 the Rebirth has noticeably less pop-in and stutter issues with nvme SSDs. Nothing surprising if you ask me about this game.

once more ; backward thinking, a sane person would ask "Why ff7 rebirth has pop-ins?",

a moron concludes : "VNME SSD reduced it; that's probably the solution!"

what the hell happened to reasoning ?? to asking question as to "WHY X acts in a given way? is it suppose to act that way?"

maybe FF7 rebirth shouldn't experience pop in regardless of the hard drive used, did it ever cross your mind that maybe FF7 rebirth is not working properly?

[Illasera]

Origineel geplaatst door tpowl1400:

Origineel geplaatst door Illasera:

once more ; backward thinking, a sane person would ask "Why ff7 rebirth has pop-ins?",

a moron concludes : "VNME SSD reduced it; that's probably the solution!"

It's a sad statement of fact as ppl are saying across the FF 7 forum. It would have been great if FF 7 the Rebirth didn't have pop-ins and stutterings at all, but that's not the case is it? Not like having nvme SSD is a waste of money anyway

its not money wasted, but it is a sheep marketing trick.

Fake problem (Oh you need RTX to see the shiney reflective surfaces, ITS A REQUIREMENT) ,
solution (real or fake), We just happened to have the FIX for you.

Question : Mind showing me why i can't play without RTX?

example 2 : fake problem (You need NVME to handle all that data transfer, it increased over the years with newer games), We just happened to have a FIX for you.

Question : Mind showing me the data transfer rate and how data streaming is being handled?

example 3 : (See above), you need a brand new CPU that supports AVX2, because yes; vertex transformation and other stuff do need dot products calculations (SSE2) and matrices multiplication , a lot of them, we just happened to have a fix for you.

Question : mind showing me HOW MUCH usage does SSE2 / AVX2 gets?

With most games being closed-source without profiling tools (Not to be confused with benchmarks); this is equal to a magician telling you "I have a cool trick , DO NOT LOOK, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND TRUST ME; IT WILL BE WORTH IT".

[EvaUnit02]

Origineel geplaatst door tfa:

Origineel geplaatst door Memoroid:

Can't see any problem in non-NVME storages. You'll just get longer level loading times, right?

This game might be using Direct Storage which is supposed to not only improve load times but increase performance. Forspoken actually has a small framerate increase with NVME over Sata. Maybe this is using Direct Storage on a higher level or maybe the reqs are a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5m1_A08JQ

I don't believe so. Vulkan (i.e. OpenGL successor) is still preferred for Id Tech. The likelihood that they'll require a MS technology bound to Windows is low, especially with the ever growing popularity of SteamOS handhelds.

Origineel geplaatst door Illasera:

Question : mind showing me HOW MUCH usage does SSE2 / AVX2 gets?

With most games being closed-source without profiling tools (Not to be confused with benchmarks); this is equal to a magician telling you "I have a cool trick , DO NOT LOOK, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND TRUST ME; IT WILL BE WORTH IT".

Dude, you either have the hardware or you don't. Let's assume that the system requirements aren't lies for a minute (which they likely are, i.e. needing NVMe + 8 core CPU). if you want to play Doom: TDA you'll have options: it'll be releasing on consoles too.

[Swamp Fox]

Will be fine zero difference for a game like this

[Many-Named]

Origineel geplaatst door RevengeR:

yeah you are. It's 2025 and NVME is a standard now. Deal with it or buy a new MOBO. Literally every MOBO has NVME nowadays.

Bro this is the ONLY game to require it. So how many people do you think are going to upgrade their setup for doom? Buy a new mobo and cpu and all for just doom?

ROFL

[tfa]

Origineel geplaatst door Many-Named:

Origineel geplaatst door RevengeR:

yeah you are. It's 2025 and NVME is a standard now. Deal with it or buy a new MOBO. Literally every MOBO has NVME nowadays.

Bro this is the ONLY game to require it. So how many people do you think are going to upgrade their setup for doom? Buy a new mobo and cpu and all for just doom?

ROFL

More games will start requiring it

[EvaUnit02]

Origineel geplaatst door tfa:

Origineel geplaatst door Many-Named:

Bro this is the ONLY game to require it. So how many people do you think are going to upgrade their setup for doom? Buy a new mobo and cpu and all for just doom?

ROFL

More games will start requiring it

Yup, likely will be the case. (Assuming that Id aren't lying with the current system requirements.)

[ragnarok]

Origineel geplaatst door Memoroid:

Can't see any problem in non-NVME storages. You'll just get longer level loading times, right?

That's not always the case. You could also have problems where the enemies just won't load properly, in which case you cannot actually see or harm them until AFTER you take damage from them.

That's what happened in the Dead Space remake, where so many people complained about "invisible enemies." It's what happens if you choose to play the game with an HDD instead of an SSD. I just hope we don't get something like this with the Dark Ages, if you choose NOT to get the Nvme SSD.

[Hector]

I may be wrong, so someone correct me if I am. I thought the purpose of ROM (NVME, SSD, and HDD) was to store all of your data. During applications, the necessary data required was transferred from your ROM to your RAM. The only real problem with using an SSD and an HDD would be slower load times. As long as you have the sufficient RAM -- I'm guessing 32gb of RAM and 16gb of VRAM-- then one should be fine.

I could store the game on my SATA III SSD, but I do not see why I cannot store the game file on my Seagate 2TB Barracuda HDD.

An intel i9, which runs at over 4.0hz, should be more than powerful enough to run the game. If you have an older mother board, you can find an i9 for it fairly cheap. I purchased a 10th gen i9 just recently for $150.

I admit that I do need to purchase a new PC monitor for the game to run at 180hz.

Am I wrong in my understanding of how RAM and ROM work? Please clarify my understanding.

I cannot help but get the feeling that the PC parts tech industry is using the most popular franchise of all time to pressure people into buying new hardware.

[DOOM SLAYER]

Origineel geplaatst door RedoLane:

Welp, I have a SATA III SSD.
looks like I'm screwed.

if geforce now cloud system have a DOOM THE DARK AGES you can play

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Origineel geplaatst door RedoLane:

Welp, I have a SATA III SSD.
looks like I'm screwed.

You will be fine

[Helicopter200]

I played dead space remake the game says you need an SSD but i finished it with no problems on HDD lol

[JefferyNothing]

I find it hard to believe that this would have some performance problem running on a SATA 3 SSD. They run anything out absolutely fine. They're still fast enough.