I'm sincerely pissed off and seriously amazed by the haters

[ASTROKARMA]

The game cost 80$ ok, you don't have to buy it now, wait for a sale.
When you buy DOOM: The Dark Ages, you don't only buy a product, you also give back the money they invested in order to upgrade their own engine ( that was necessary to make a game that handle their needs) and the money that it took to also make the product.

The steam reviews are positive, the game run well ( way better compare to a lot of AAA ), good graphics, rich content, good gameplay, good story but SOMEHOW, among all of this positive things, the haters still find a way to scream so hard that it feel like the game is the biggest pile of crap ever created.

Also, the whole game is also available in the game pass, it is only 15 bucks not 80...

[Haven]

Lick those corporate boots!

[APN34Z]

I bought the collectors because im a huge fan of the franchise, haters gona hate man, game took me 32 hours to beat and im looking forward to the DLC etc, excited for the future of Doom too, when you enjoy something this much its priceless so money means nothing.

[AssPained]

Happy positive people are playing the game not posting on forums.
The more I play it the more I enjoy.
Yes , it's weird in some parts and some decisions are bad or odd but I guess that still means that games can improve and it's very rare to get that perfect game. I am a life long fan of DOOM and played it before more posters here were born.

All in all it's a very enjoyable game.
I prefer the sci-fi / tech / space horror setting more but this is fun too.
Variation is also good. Maybe a DLC will be more sci-fi, who knows.

AAA games today are going through a trial of fire and getting a very nice DOOM game is better than anyone could have expected when AAA studios are closing down left and right because corporate greedy fks and investors, executive boards and etc have been controlling an ART medium because they want MORE MONEY. In 3-5 years when the AAA gaming industry has finished their great rest and the lost talent has found new studios ( Exp33 for example) we will be showering in great games. Just in time for Covid part 2 or WW3.
YOU GUNNA GET COMFY AND BE HAPPY.

[DiABLO]

Originally posted by APN34Z:

I bought the collectors because im a huge fan of the franchise, haters gona hate man, game took me 32 hours to beat and im looking forward to the DLC etc, excited for the future of Doom too, when you enjoy something this much its priceless so money means nothing.

I hear you man! Me 2 .. I also bouught that edition. And I love the game and franchise and have so far spend 120 hours ingame! ;) And I love my Slayer figurine! ;)

[AssPained]

Originally posted by DiABLO:

Originally posted by APN34Z:

I bought the collectors because im a huge fan of the franchise, haters gona hate man, game took me 32 hours to beat and im looking forward to the DLC etc, excited for the future of Doom too, when you enjoy something this much its priceless so money means nothing.

I hear you man! Me 2 .. I also bouught that edition. And I love the game and franchise and have so far spend 120 hours ingame! ;) And I love my Slayer figurine! ;)

I managed to break the plastic pin on the cape on mine, very annoying but unnoticeable as one pin and bending the metal makes the cape stay in place. The figure is very nice.
The steel book and red key are useless.
I will fix it when I have time and energy for it.

[N00B]

I like the game too, but it has some flaws.
Beyond the pricing which is just too high and the unnecessary addition of Denuvo and Ray-Tracing (they would have saved more money and effort not implementing it into the engine than they would have lost baking lighting into the models), the gameplay has 3 distinct design flaws I noticed while playing on maximum difficulty.

Sprinting is a direct downgrade from dashing or even just your standard strafing in from the og Doom games as you're forced to look away from the enemy to avoid their attacks, both not being able to shoot and not being able to see the attacks. Its one thing if we couldn't sprint and shoot at the same time, but because the sprint is tied to the direction you're facing, it kinda works against dodging attacks since you can't even see them coming.

The melee, while being good for boss fights as it lets you get ammo without a need for a horde of grunts, is worse than glory kills or the chainsaw since its just as slow and immobile but doesn't make you invulnerable to damage, making it a greater risk than reward. If you could move while performing them, allowing you to avoid attacks, it would make them significantly more usable.

The shield's guard feels more like a punishment than a tool as on higher difficulties normal attacks can get through it easily, meaning that you're still forced to avoid attacks normally by moving out of the way, which is especially annoying against Chaingunners, Arachnatrons and Cyberdemons who's hit-scan machine gun fire is unavoidable and will tear through your shield with ease, punishing you for trying to block their attack by getting rid of your shield throw, parry and shield bash until it recovers. They are designed so they can't kill you by doing little to no damage once you're at 5 health or below, but that feels more like the devs took pity on the players than it being a genuine design choice.
Personally, I like the idea of the shield instantly breaking if used incorrectly, but if that were intended, the aforementioned enemies' machine gun fire should be made parry-able as they are otherwise unavoidable.

When the difficulty is low, I don't feel the need to use the sprint, melee or shield guard. When the difficulty is high, I'm punished for trying to use the sprint, melee or shield guard.
There would have been better ways to implement the above.

[AssPained]

Originally posted by N00B:

The gameplay I feel is flawed.

Sprinting is a direct downgrade from dashing or even just your standard strafing in from the og Doom games as you're forced to look away from the enemy to avoid their attacks, both not being able to shoot and not being able to see the attacks.

The melee, while being good for boss fights as it lets you get ammo without a need for a horde of grunts, is worse than glory kills or the chainsaw since its just as slow and immobile but doesn't make you invulnerable to damage, making it a greater risk than reward.

The shield's guard feels more like a punishment than a tool as on higher difficulties normal attacks can get through it easily, meaning that you're still forced to avoid attacks normally by moving out of the way, which is especially annoying against Chaingunners, Arachnatrons and Cyberdemons who's hit-scan machine gun fire is unavoidable and will tear through your shield with ease, punishing you for trying to block their attack by getting rid of your shield throw, parry and shield bash until it recovers.

When the difficulty is low, I don't feel the need to use the sprint, melee or shield guard. When the difficulty is high, I'm punished for trying to use the sprint, melee or shield guard.
There would have been better ways to implement the above.

They lowered the eternal puzzle pinata ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ while someone still insisted keeping the above in place and this is the result.
On higher difficulties you have to prioritize certain enemies or you will get rekt.
I don't mind. The game flows better than eternal and you can actually use most weapons whenever you feel like it. Eternal literally made some weapons not do any damage at all which is completely stupid in a Doom game. All to force that puzzle solving resource managing game-play. Eternal otherwise is a very nice game when you give up playing your own way and just play it the way the game director wanted you to play.

Doom 16 is still the best neo-doom.

[Slayrix]

Steam discussions are just a cesspool where the loudest crowd are the haters and trolls. You can’t take anything you see in discussions at face value because it’s probably some loser nobody sitting in some dank basement they haven’t cleaned for half a decade, sitting there with roaches crawling all over them because they smell like literal ass from not showering for over a year, who think their opinion is the only one that matters.

I just mostly ignore them

[N00B]

Originally posted by AssPained:

Target priority can't help you when you're forced to choose between standing there infront of a Cyberdemon and getting rekt by the countless enemies firing at you as you're waiting on a parry-able melee attack, and choosing to attack the enemies instead, leaving you to get sniped by the Cyberdemon's machine gun fire, or his obsidian-proctology.

[Berserk Slayer]

I mean ok, but also who cares what embittered people do and say. We have this amazing game of Doom Leonidas full of primal rage, and we're keeping it.

Some will pump their foot on the gas and lose faster, lose further and harder. With every game release they push against owning games and push game pass harder, dive headlong into Microsoft's pocketbook like half-wit lemmings. Let people do as they wish but we will still have this game.

Originally posted by AssPained:

The game flows better than eternal and you can actually use most weapons whenever you feel like it.

Most definitely.

[AssPained]

Originally posted by N00B:

Originally posted by AssPained:

Target priority can't help you when you're forced to choose between standing there infront of a Cyberdemon and getting rekt by the countless enemies firing at you as you're waiting on a parry-able melee attack, and choosing to attack the enemies instead, leaving you to get sniped by the Cyberdemon's machine gun fire, or his obsidian-proctology.

Cyberdemon is 1st priority because hitscan. Spiders are prio 2.
Just fly around with your magical 100 meter shield bash targeting the big boys while blasting super shotgun in their face.

Game is just fun man. Far from perfect but it's fun.
I haven't smiled in a long time playing video games. They did the super shotgun just lovely.
Also the Impaler is VERY satisfying on medium grunts making them fly 20 meter and get stuck on the well behind them.

This game is a blast.
Shame non steam purchases can't be reviewed here.

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by N00B:

Originally posted by AssPained:

Target priority can't help you when you're forced to choose between standing there infront of a Cyberdemon and getting rekt by the countless enemies firing at you as you're waiting on a parry-able melee attack, and choosing to attack the enemies instead, leaving you to get sniped by the Cyberdemon's machine gun fire, or his obsidian-proctology.

If you're overwhelmed by the other enemies then why not just quickly use shield bash and clear them out or jump from a high place and use that to kill the things around you? I've noticed a lot of this game isn't only just standing and waiting for green attacks but also doing crowd control so that you don't get overwhelmed by the small guys fire.

[DiABLO]

Originally posted by AssPained:

Originally posted by DiABLO:

I hear you man! Me 2 .. I also bouught that edition. And I love the game and franchise and have so far spend 120 hours ingame! ;) And I love my Slayer figurine! ;)

I managed to break the plastic pin on the cape on mine, very annoying but unnoticeable as one pin and bending the metal makes the cape stay in place. The figure is very nice.
The steel book and red key are useless.
I will fix it when I have time and energy for it.

Oh I am sorry to hear my friend! Although I luckily did not break mine I did initially had some troube getting it on! haha! :) But eventually I got it.. and I also had to "bend" the metal a little to make the cape sit like it should. If everything fails- maybe you can give it just a dot of superglue or something But I hope you somehow get it fixed! I agree on the red keycard and box... seems useless.. But yes the figure is very nice and high quality imo.

[RobloxMinecrafterGamer]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Steam discussions are just a cesspool where the loudest crowd are the haters and trolls. You can’t take anything you see in discussions at face value because it’s probably some loser nobody sitting in some dank basement they haven’t cleaned for half a decade, sitting there with roaches crawling all over them because they smell like literal ass from not showering for over a year, who think their opinion is the only one that matters.

I just mostly ignore them

yeah by 2030, steam will be filled with 99% of haters, trolls and ragebaiters

[N00B]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

If you're overwhelmed by the other enemies then why not just quickly use shield bash and clear them out or jump from a high place and use that to kill the things around you? I've noticed a lot of this game isn't only just standing and waiting for green attacks but also doing crowd control so that you don't get overwhelmed by the small guys fire.

Because I can't clear the entire freaking screen in 1 shield bash. I upgraded the shield throw so I can hit multiple enemies at the same time.
However, if you didn't know, lesser enemies continue to spawn indefinitely until the fight is over . This means that once I'm done clearing out all of the grunts, they'll respawn, very quickly as a matter of fact.
Once the primary enemies are killed, you'll even see the lesser enemies disappear as they retreat without a leader.

Originally posted by AssPained:

...

I also think the game is fun.
This is why I hate the parts that make it un-fun.

Cyberdemon IS priority, however, I cannot deal with him when I'm being railed by countless projectiles. While I'm parrying him, it takes one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to take a cheap shot at me for me to either lose most of my health, or lose my shield, the latter being a death sentence when I'm in melee range to a Cyberdemon.
It wouldn't be an issue if the game made us move slow as molasses when not sprinting and sprinting didn't force me to look away from the enemy about to impale me with his middle finger.

I am stuck between the Cyberdemon kill me, or everything other than the Cyberdemon killing me. In the end I did manage to beat the encounter but it was frustrating and a serious waste of time.
People genuinely praised Doom 2016 for not having a sprint.