Will this be like 2016 again or bad?

[Shekelstein]

Doom 2016 was a huge surprise and tons of fun with the typical shooting everything, simplicity and a story which is basically "beat the demon scum back to hell and seal whatever hole they come from".

Eternal is some weird mix of Super Mario, "shoot enemy with this gun in this spot" puzzles, and some terrible "we must spin some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story that the devil is god and a computer AI is some ancient being also you kill god and basically all of heaven since they are evil for some reason because lol why not" slop.

Will this game be more like the first or second option?

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[Kreesty]

Yeah bro f*ckin' excuse them that they made Eternal be more than a W+M1 game. God knows that all we want to do is spam click and anything more than that is Mario. (as if Mario is bad in the first place)

[Nidstang]

Neither. It looks incredibly slow and basic. Lacking the intensity of 2016 and the complexity of Eternal in favor of a more casual experience

[Ace]

Originally posted by Shekelstein:

Eternal is some weird mix of Super Mario, "shoot enemy with this gun in this spot" puzzles, and some terrible "we must spin some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story that the devil is god and a computer AI is some ancient being also you kill god and basically all of heaven since they are evil for some reason because lol why not" slop.

Eternal is nothing like this.

[SLDFMechwarrior]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Shekelstein:

Eternal is some weird mix of Super Mario, "shoot enemy with this gun in this spot" puzzles, and some terrible "we must spin some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story that the devil is god and a computer AI is some ancient being also you kill god and basically all of heaven since they are evil for some reason because lol why not" slop.

Eternal is nothing like this.

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

[Ace]

Originally posted by SLDFMechwarrior:

Originally posted by Ace:

Eternal is nothing like this.

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

58 minutes in the game & you have seen nothing. Skill issue.

[Sar]

Originally posted by SLDFMechwarrior:

Originally posted by Ace:

Eternal is nothing like this.

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

This game also has low ammo counts. According to Hugo, this is one of the ways they’ll prevent you from just killing all those enemies in the big open levels from afar. The other way is that they just don’t give you any long range weapons this time.

[Jordan_Peterson]

its gonna be bad but the hardcore fans will still say its good cause they dont have high standards anymore.

[Kreesty]

Originally posted by SLDFMechwarrior:

Originally posted by Ace:

Eternal is nothing like this.

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

Horrible take.

[SLDFMechwarrior]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by SLDFMechwarrior:

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

58 minutes in the game & you have seen nothing. Skill issue.

58 minutes was enough of a waste of my time.

[SLDFMechwarrior]

Originally posted by Kreesty:

Originally posted by SLDFMechwarrior:

Eternal is exactly like this. Game was a turd sandwich with ♥♥♥♥ stew for a side dish. Hope this game is more like 2016, an actual good Doom game. Not some weird "Here have 10 shogun shells and you must kill an enemy with EXACTLY this other attack to get more crap.

Horrible take.

U mad I ♥♥♥♥ on your crappy game?

[Zapmaster]

Second option, but you can get your simple brain dead FPS shooter fix easily elsewhere. There has been like 20 indy "boomer shooters" released over the last 5 years that play exactly the way you want. Play those.

[tpowl1400]

According to Skill Up preview, if you think Doom 2016 was the better of Doom 2016 and Doom the Eternal, Doom the Dark Ages will go back to how the original Doom was like in the 90s so it's going be very different play style from Doom 2016.

Hence, the Dark Ages isn't bad or good compared to the prior two in the remake series of the 2010s. It's just different in that it wanted to take the root back to the original Doom game but with heavier emphasis on melee attacks.

Doom since the original went thru remakes several times before ending up with Doom 2016 and this latest rendition called the Dark Ages is no different.

[Ashtr1x]

3rd option.

Worse than both 2016 and Eternal in Combat system.

2016 was a flawless game, yes SSG can be spammed but that's the fun part. The game gives you everything and you can do whatever you want either spam rockets, gauss rifle or your wish. Story was perfect with Sci-Fi and solid environment storytelling. And this one also requires FPS Skill with Aiming precision and movement. Overall solid package. Grit, blood and horror aspect also shines well. It's the best DOOM after John Carmack departure and probably the last one like it.

Eternal had high skill ceiling for an FPS shooter with precision and movement speed focus only playable by FPS fans. Casuals get beaten to pulp due to that at Nightmare. That's it rest of Eternal is bad as you mentioned due to forced Chainsaw spam, low ammo in starting levels, very poor story, absolutely horrible color grading and too much HUD bloat, platforming sections and garbage Hammer for DLC 2 and mega downgrades post release due to Marauder destroyed all noobs and other aspects. Also cheesy cartoony sounds, VFX additions like stars around demons what not, the list is endless. But it attracted masses.

The Dark Ages is 4 steps back - Forced shield / Melee focus. There's no FPS skill anymore now. Consolized controls, the Aim system is not rewarding as you have to Melee. There's Microsoft corporate push on open world design, TGA is Semi Open world, then sliders from Starfield which do not do anything but dilute the difficulty. Main menu and entire menu is a downgrade from both 2 games. There's no OST audible in the gameplay videos of all kinds. Yellow scratches on walls and everywhere handholding mechanics. Constant color bomb of Green glow hinting player to parry with almost all demons, Guns have absolutely ZERO impact you cannot take down any enemy other than fodder. Open world levels are diluted on top with no arenas no chasing AI aggression, bloated in design collectibles and exploration. Cutscene emphasis to max. No more Sci-Fi it's just a stupid fantasy which masquerades as DOOM.

The franchise is dead now. Why fix when it's not broke ? Anyways I digress. It's a big disappointment.

[Sir VJ]

Originally posted by Shekelstein:

Doom 2016 was a huge surprise and tons of fun with the typical shooting everything, simplicity and a story which is basically "beat the demon scum back to hell and seal whatever hole they come from".

Eternal is some weird mix of Super Mario, "shoot enemy with this gun in this spot" puzzles, and some terrible "we must spin some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story that the devil is god and a computer AI is some ancient being also you kill god and basically all of heaven since they are evil for some reason because lol why not" slop.

Will this game be more like the first or second option?

Ironically Super Mario Bros. 1 is more hardcore than Doom 2016.