Denuvo = No Buy

[SecondLeaseGamer]

Shame. I really was looking forward to this game, but im not paying money to install malware onto my computer. Screw SecuROM/Denuvo.

[space]

denuvo isn't malware

[Wehzy]

Originally posted by space:

denuvo isn't malware

You got no idea what you're talking about.

[Carbon]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

Originally posted by space:

denuvo isn't malware

You got no idea what you're talking about.

Not sure where that would leave you then. I mean, to claim that a popular and common anti-piracy software used by many major studios is literally "malware" is hyperbolic and misleading, used as such to try to support what is in the end, simply an opinion.

Doom 2016 and Eternal both launched with Denuvo for an initial release period where piracy is most likely to happen. After that period, it was removed, but in the interim, I for one had no issues. Sure, the pirates will get around it, but you can't blame devs for wanting to put up as many roadblocks as possible to prevent people getting their product for free.

I know you'll come back with all manner of links to folks having problems with it in the past, but I could also link you to a significant number of people who think the earth is flat. People's testimonies are unreliable and if Denuvo were universally problematic, nobody would use it.

[Zapmaster]

Oh look another Anti-Denuvo "activist" showing up pretending they would buy DA if it was DRM free. You don't even own Doom '16 or Eternal dude, as if.

[SecondLeaseGamer]

Originally posted by Zapmaster:

Oh look another Anti-Denuvo "activist" showing up pretending they would buy DA if it was DRM free. You don't even own Doom '16 or Eternal dude, as if.

lol. I buy what I like, and Doom '16, and Eternal wasnt really up my alley. This new one though looks awesome. Dark Ages is exactly up my alley. And I own a hell of a lot of games, including a lot of Bethesda titles. I 100% was looking to buy this game when I saw it had Denuvo malware put into it. Same reason I didnt play Dragons Dogma 2, despite being very interested in it at realease. Ah well, I still have a backlog full of games I'll likely never get around to, but I'll continue to be vocal when I see a game I want that has this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ SecuROM/Denuvo malware put in it.

Im a pretty simple guy. No Denuvo malware and no Kernel Level rootkits. Its pretty simple.

[yerozcumbamaphiloz]

Do we really need another discussion post that is just complaining about denuvo if anything saying you don't like denuvo does not matter at the end of the day because just like eternal had it's denuvo removed long after it released i'm sure that will be the case for the dark age's.

[SecondLeaseGamer]

Originally posted by yerozcumbamaphiloz:

Do we really need another discussion post that is just complaining about denuvo if anything saying you don't like denuvo does not matter at the end of the day because just like eternal had it's denuvo removed long after it released i'm sure that will be the case for the dark age's.

We do. If nobody complains, nothing will ever change. If it bothers you, you shouldnt engage... And Denuvo being removed well after the fact means people like me will likely not purchase it at all because the interest has faded by then.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by SecondLeaseGamer:

Originally posted by yerozcumbamaphiloz:

Do we really need another discussion post that is just complaining about denuvo if anything saying you don't like denuvo does not matter at the end of the day because just like eternal had it's denuvo removed long after it released i'm sure that will be the case for the dark age's.

We do. If nobody complains, nothing will ever change. If it bothers you, you shouldnt engage... And Denuvo being removed well after the fact means people like me will likely not purchase it at all because the interest has faded by then.

That's just it - you've been complaining for the better part of a decade.

If you guys were truly putting your money where your mouth is publishers would've stopped using this by now. They aren't stopping.

So what you're doing isnt working. Time for a different strategy - or to admit that this probably doesn't matter to the general public as much as you want it to.

[Carbon]

Originally posted by SecondLeaseGamer:

Originally posted by yerozcumbamaphiloz:

Do we really need another discussion post that is just complaining about denuvo if anything saying you don't like denuvo does not matter at the end of the day because just like eternal had it's denuvo removed long after it released i'm sure that will be the case for the dark age's.

We do. If nobody complains, nothing will ever change. If it bothers you, you shouldnt engage... And Denuvo being removed well after the fact means people like me will likely not purchase it at all because the interest has faded by then.

Another faux protest fueled by faux outrage. "I'm not buying it for <insert psuedo rationale here>". Denuvo, no Mick Gordon, hate Bethesda, costs too much, requires RTX capable hardware, no support for Udmurt language...banging on and on.

Whatever. Take a stand. Rally the outraged troops while the rest of us enjoy the game.

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Carbon:

Originally posted by SecondLeaseGamer:

We do. If nobody complains, nothing will ever change. If it bothers you, you shouldnt engage... And Denuvo being removed well after the fact means people like me will likely not purchase it at all because the interest has faded by then.

Another faux protest fueled by faux outrage. "I'm not buying it for <insert psuedo rationale here>". Denuvo, no Mick Gordon, hate Bethesda, costs too much, requires RTX capable hardware, no support for Udmurt language...banging on and on.

Whatever. Take a stand. Rally the outraged troops while the rest of us enjoy the game.

Well said 👍🏻

[PR3DAT0R]

Your loss, ID tend to remove DENUVO after some time. We all enjoy this masterpiece while you wait :).

[tpowl1400]

Originally posted by PR3DAT0R ✔:

Your loss, ID tend to remove DENUVO after some time. We all enjoy this masterpiece while you wait :).

If that were to happen, I guess you don't have to shift from Steam to GOG

[MILKElikeCAT]

The premise is that you have bought Doom.

[MILKElikeCAT]

Originally posted by SecondLeaseGamer:

Shame. I really was looking forward to this game, but im not paying money to install malware onto my computer. Screw SecuROM/Denuvo.

Isn't the essence of this software to prevent cracking?
Today's software has a much smaller impact than before.

Doom will remove Denuvo after a while, you may not be interested, but those who really like it will not be like this. A lot of games that were exclusive to Sony are still wanted by many people on PC.

I see you guys saying this every time...Are you threatening?

"Windows" also has anti-virus software, which can also affect performance and be bypassed. Why don't you switch to "Linux"?
Or do you want to have the least impact, so turn off all the anti-virus software and firewall? Wouldn’t this have the least impact on your computer and the fastest?

[SecondLeaseGamer]

Originally posted by MILKElikeCAT:

Originally posted by SecondLeaseGamer:

Shame. I really was looking forward to this game, but im not paying money to install malware onto my computer. Screw SecuROM/Denuvo.

Isn't the essence of this software to prevent cracking?
Today's software has a much smaller impact than before.

Doom will remove Denuvo after a while, you may not be interested, but those who really like it will not be like this. A lot of games that were exclusive to Sony are still wanted by many people on PC.

I see you guys saying this every time...Are you threatening?

"Windows" also has anti-virus software, which can also affect performance and be bypassed. Why don't you switch to "Linux"?
Or do you want to have the least impact, so turn off all the anti-virus software and firewall? Wouldn’t this have the least impact on your computer and the fastest?

You don't know what you are talking about. The majority of gamers lose interest in a game after the initial hype window closes. And why are you comparing Windows Defender to rootkits and DRM/Malware? I buy games with DRM all the time, and Steam itself is DRM. I've specified that im against Denuvo/SecuROM and Kernel Level Anticheats/Rootkits. Its really not that hard.

I also dual boot Linux, specifically Nobara 48, but I mostly just tinker in it and use it for AI. Proton is cool, but compatibility isnt near 100%. You are being ridiculous by comparing Windows Defender/Firewall to malware DRM. It's intellectually dishonest.