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dalbozofgurth Feb 27 @ 9:28am
Denuvo Anti-Tamper/Anti-Cheat is a Rootkit, do not support this game
Denuvo Anti-Tamper/Anti-Cheat is a rootkit. It installs itself under windows/assembly and uses the New Technology File System in what some consider to be an unapproved way. Denuvo also hides its signed files without proper pointers in the Registry, by signing the files under company names which do not identify them as Denuvo. While you can see the artifacts Denuvo leaves in Windows 10, you cannot see the artifacts it leaves behind in Windows 11, but you can see the file space they used. In addition, Denuvo retains write permission to reinstall itself even if you remove critical components, if you fail to uninstall all of the files. Denuvo hides itself well enough you need something on the level of Ghidra to track all of its installation down.

Do NOT support Denuvo or any game using Denuvo.
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Grampire (Banned) Feb 27 @ 10:54am 
Let's be clear - buying this or any game is not an indication that you "support" Denuvo.
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dalbozofgurth Feb 27 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
Let's be clear - buying this or any game is not an indication that you "support" Denuvo.
It is, though.
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Grampire (Banned) Feb 27 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by dalbozofgurth:
Originally posted by Grampire:
Let's be clear - buying this or any game is not an indication that you "support" Denuvo.
It is, though.

Great! Then I'm sure you're prepared to provide legal alternatives for playing Doom:TDA on PC so we can avoid this nasty issue entirely.
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space Feb 27 @ 12:52pm 
denuvo anti-tamper runs on user level, not kernel and this game doesn't have denuvo anti-cheat
Last edited by space; Feb 27 @ 12:53pm
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yerozcumbamaphiloz Feb 27 @ 1:28pm 
Tell me you pirate games without telling me you pirate games.
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ULTRA Feb 27 @ 7:43pm 
Yeah it's just DAC that's the kernel-level one
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dalbozofgurth Feb 27 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
Originally posted by dalbozofgurth:
It is, though.

Great! Then I'm sure you're prepared to provide legal alternatives for playing Doom:TDA on PC so we can avoid this nasty issue entirely.
My legal alternative is to not play it.
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Zapmaster Feb 27 @ 9:32pm 
I like Denuvo, it's so unobtrusive I would have never even known any of the games I played had it if I wasn't told. If publishers want to keep using it because their analytics are showing it's protecting their games well then I have zero issues with it.
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dalbozofgurth Feb 27 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by Zapmaster:
I like Denuvo, it's so unobtrusive I would have never even known any of the games I played had it if I wasn't told. If publishers want to keep using it because their analytics are showing it's protecting their games well then I have zero issues with it.
Some people are happy with signing away their rights and privacy for a few shiny objects. I'm not.
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blackdevil1412 Feb 28 @ 4:18am 
I'll grab the game when it removes denuvo
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Grampire (Banned) Feb 28 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by dalbozofgurth:
Originally posted by Grampire:

Great! Then I'm sure you're prepared to provide legal alternatives for playing Doom:TDA on PC so we can avoid this nasty issue entirely.
My legal alternative is to not play it.

You didn't answer the question.

As a fan of Doom that wants to play the game on PC, how am I supposed to do that without "showing support" for Denuvo?

If you are going to blame anyone who purchases the game for supporting Denuvo then you need to provide a viable alternative that allows them to play the game.
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vk^4@ Feb 28 @ 7:04am 
Its a Single Campaign game. WTF is greedy & corrupt Denuvo involved?
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space Feb 28 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by vk^4@:
Its a Single Campaign game. WTF is greedy & corrupt Denuvo involved?
what does it being sp have to do with it? denuvo is copy protection
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Rings Feb 28 @ 12:07pm 
Remove Denuvo.

Originally posted by space:
Originally posted by vk^4@:
Its a Single Campaign game. WTF is greedy & corrupt Denuvo involved?
what does it being sp have to do with it? denuvo is copy protection
Because Denuvo requires an internet connection to verify you own the game. If this game was online-only multiplayer, having Denuvo wouldn't be as bad, as you'd still need an internet connection to play regardless. Requiring an internet connection to play your single player game when it otherwise should NOT require an internet connection is ridiculous.

Last edited by Rings; Feb 28 @ 12:08pm
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vk^4@ Feb 28 @ 6:40pm 
Copy that! (did not know that. It was annoying to be on a long journey & not be able to frag on my steamdeck (doom 2016 & eternal)
Thanks all. No disrespect intended.
"If you dont know...now you know ...--!!!" Mr. Smalls
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