80 Euro doesn't work on Steam..

[ola.lilliehook]

This is steam with 100k games and a sale every other month, 80 euro is definitely a misstake and people will "maybe" wait for a sale in a few month.
This isn't even a multiplayer game so you don't have to buy if your friends did.
Selling it for a reasonable price gives it momentum, less people buys it at a sale for 5 euro in two years or doesn't buy it at all.

There are just so much els to play that isn't 80 euro..

[Yoghurt shot]

The Dark Ages part is simply overpriced ray tracing scam. Lazy cash grab made for junkies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C699QueWM

[MILKElikeCAT]

Originally posted by Yoghurt shot:

The Dark Ages part is simply overpriced ray tracing scam. Lazy cash grab made for junkies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C699QueWM

I suggest you learn about the making of the game.

The "Thumbnail" is the one opposite the mirror on the left. The real 3D model just follows the player in front of the mirror and makes the same movements.
The game uses scene textures created around the car and then reflects them on it.
The underwater reflection is a radial map, projected in the opposite direction of the calculated image, so it is not displayed if it cannot be seen.
Do you really know what ray tracing is?

[Angel666]

So much competition from AA and indie games with new game ideas and concepts .
Which have more play ability more hours worth of fun.

Also this game gives me no feeling of wow its so new its so amazing i most upgrade or get a new PC to play it.

The new games give me no interest in upgrading hardware or buying new game console.

no wow factor

[MILKElikeCAT]

Originally posted by Angel666:

So much competition from AA and indie games with new game ideas and concepts .
Which have more play ability more hours worth of fun.

Also this game gives me no feeling of wow its so new its so amazing i most upgrade or get a new PC to play it.

The new games give me no interest in upgrading hardware or buying new game console.

no wow factor

I also disagree with this decision to make RT mandatory.
I just don't like false and misleading information.

[Yoghurt shot]

Originally posted by MILKElikeCAT:

Originally posted by Yoghurt shot:

The Dark Ages part is simply overpriced ray tracing scam. Lazy cash grab made for junkies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C699QueWM

I suggest you learn about the making of the game.

The "Thumbnail" is the one opposite the mirror on the left. The real 3D model just follows the player in front of the mirror and makes the same movements.
The game uses scene textures created around the car and then reflects them on it.
The underwater reflection is a radial map, projected in the opposite direction of the calculated image, so it is not displayed if it cannot be seen.
Do you really know what ray tracing is?

You didn't watch the video, so I won't bother to debate with you.

One way or another, in all recent games where ray tracing is optional, ray tracing doesn't provide significant visual difference. It only tremendously scale vram usage - at least 2Gb more vram required now for the same quality we had in 2018. The more usual shadow and light casting solutions are replaced with this lazy solution, the more Gb vram is required. Defending this technology is just dumb.

[posthum]

Agree, this will keep sitting on the wishlist for a while to see if they're willing to go below 60 EUR as well as drop Denuvo. If that does not happen in a year, this is a no buy and gets removed from the wishlist.

[Ghostvenger92]

Originally posted by ola.lilliehook:

This is steam with 100k games and a sale every other month, 80 euro is definitely a misstake and people will "maybe" wait for a sale in a few month.
This isn't even a multiplayer game so you don't have to buy if your friends did.
Selling it for a reasonable price gives it momentum, less people buys it at a sale for 5 euro in two years or doesn't buy it at all.

There are just so much els to play that isn't 80 euro..

then try US money since European money isnt working

[opus132]

Gaben is not pleased.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/013/397/steam-summer-sale.jpg

[John28]

So true. Should have been 70 EUR at MAX but even that would be a bit too much for about 15 hrs playtime. Definitely waiting for big discount...

[Nekros]

This can all be solved by just waiting until it's on a discount you think the game deserves to be on. Just don't expect it anytime soon. By comparison of the very near future this will seem reasonable. Yeah the industry wants to push for $90-$100 games by the end of this year. Nintendo was the impetus for that so go tell them how much you appreciate them.

[opus132]

Don't games that fail usually drop in price really fast? Gonna be interesting to see what happens with this one.

[Hermano]

no game should cost more than 50 bucks....... it's suppost to be to kids play,,,kids dont have money.

[posthum]

Originally posted by Nekros:

This can all be solved by just waiting until it's on a discount you think the game deserves to be on. Just don't expect it anytime soon. By comparison of the very near future this will seem reasonable. Yeah the industry wants to push for $90-$100 games by the end of this year. Nintendo was the impetus for that so go tell them how much you appreciate them.

Won't be the first time a lot of porcellain shatters in the gaming industry. Not that anyone on the consumer side has much to worry about, plenty of non AAA games to choose from. And in a few years, the cost of developing games will have decreased because some blue haired "devs" will be serving coffee instead, with gaming prices back to normal.

[Nekros]

Originally posted by Hermano:

no game should cost more than 50 bucks....... it's suppost to be to kids play,,,kids dont have money.

Rated M for mature as in you need to be 17+ (should have part time job by that age before the training wheels get kicked off) or at least it was back in the day. When actual physical copies were sold you’d be carded if you looked young and if it was obvious your dad was buying it for you they had to disclose that the game has violence or sexual content. But pretty funny now that the kids/family oriented console of Nintendo is gonna be asking for $80 across the board on all their titles because ♥♥♥♥ you I guess.