The game pass excuse needs to stop

[RebelStorm]

Plenty of games that are on game pass still had much better launches on Steam than Doom like E33, Oblivion, , Black Ops 6, Stalker 2 and Forza Horizon 5.

Doom is a famous IP. Being famous doesn't always mean it's that popular. Metroid and Mad Max are also famous but not that popular. Dooms popularity ceiling was Eternal.

[Sgt. Flaw]

It has to do with the games length

All games besides doom, on that list, have longevity....Eternal had the boomer shooter fad going on for it too...it was its legs when people found out how deep the gameplay was that made it what it is

But even those games suffered lower player counts than average..Gamepass is taking a percent of Steam and a majority of Doom players on this forum are Gamepass users

[RebelStorm]

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

It has to do with the games length

All games besides doom, on that list, have longevity....

But even those games suffered lower player counts than average..Gamepass is taking a percent of Steam and a majority of Doom players on this forum are Gamepass users

Dude, Dragon Age had over 100k players at launch and it flopped bad enough to force EA to restructure their entire company. These numbers are terrible for a new Doom.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

It has to do with the games length

All games besides doom, on that list, have longevity....

But even those games suffered lower player counts than average..Gamepass is taking a percent of Steam and a majority of Doom players on this forum are Gamepass users

Dude, Dragon Age had over 100k players at launch and it flopped bad enough to force EA to restructure their entire company. These numbers are terrible for a new Doom.

Dooms a 15 hour budget game...cost of development was probably next to nothing...

[RebelStorm]

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Dude, Dragon Age had over 100k players at launch and it flopped bad enough to force EA to restructure their entire company. These numbers are terrible for a new Doom.

Dooms a 15 hour budget game...cost of development was probably next to nothing...

Ok so you're definitely a troll if you think Dooms a budget game.

[This_is_Citrus]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

It has to do with the games length

All games besides doom, on that list, have longevity....

But even those games suffered lower player counts than average..Gamepass is taking a percent of Steam and a majority of Doom players on this forum are Gamepass users

Dude, Dragon Age had over 100k players at launch and it flopped bad enough to force EA to restructure their entire company. These numbers are terrible for a new Doom.

Not really. Doom 2016 was a big success and peaked at 40k players, Eternal peaked at 100k because it was during the pandemic. TDA is at 30k and a large number of people are playing on gamepass. That brings TDA somewhere between Doom 2016 and Eternal.

You can't really say that any of those games "flopped", Dragon Age had 1.5 million players over all systems, the problem is with EAs unrealistic expectations.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

Dooms a 15 hour budget game...cost of development was probably next to nothing...

Ok so you're definitely a troll if you think Dooms a budget game.

It's not a budget powerhouse...everything looks the same

It's not a graphical showstopper even tho it has small environments...it's cut scene production is way far behind...the only thing it has going for it is performance...but it better ateast have that with how little the poly count is

It's a little niche game

[talloyer]

Metroid IP always deserved to sell much more than Doom! Hopefully Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, after the delight of Metroid Dread, finally gets an excellent commercial success!

[alex010300]

Need to remember we got a lot of people whining about the price of Doom TDA. So game pass for them.

[BEEP!]

Doom 2016 peaked at 44k it sold over 5.5mill copys on pc alone.

Doom DA it still hasn't hit it's peak we have to wait fir the first or second weekend to actually see that peak when a game launches this is how all game's work.

Doom DA is hella expensive & a short one & done game & it's on gamepass so yea most people will play on gamepass instead.

So just wait for a couple more days or a week at max so we can actually see the peak numbers.

[RebelStorm]

Originally posted by talloyer:

Metroid IP always deserved to sell much more than Doom! Hopefully Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, after the delight of Metroid Dread, finally gets an excellent commercial success!

I agree with you. Metroid has always been more interesting than Doom. I feel like a lot of Doom fans grew up when it was "edgy" and still think that it's cool. Which is funny since the game looks cartoony as hell now. The ground looks like a rainbow after you kill a few enemies and all the health and ammo pops out like a pinata.

[GuRu Asaki]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Plenty of games that are on game pass still had much better launches on Steam than Doom like E33, Oblivion, , Black Ops 6, Stalker 2 and Forza Horizon 5.

Doom is a famous IP. Being famous doesn't always mean it's that popular. Metroid and Mad Max are also famous but not that popular. Dooms popularity ceiling was Eternal.

People Do Not Know How To Stop Their Degrading Society...

What Can I Say, ~_~

Monkey See, Monkey Do...

---------------------------

Oh, Everyone Has To Buy Digital = Digital Is The Future
Oh, Everyone Has To All Be On Same Platform = We Hate Competition
Oh, Everyone Has To Be Mobilized = Battle Pass & Live Service Is The Future
Oh, Everyone Needs Frame Gen & AI & Upscaling = If You Love Ray Tracing Get This
Oh, Everyone Needs To Be On Game Pass Now = Inflation Sucks & Game Pass Cheap
Oh, Nobody Should Ever Own Anything Ever Again = You'll Love Poor & Poverty Ville


People Who Buy This /\ Are Idiots...

The Digital Market Has All Been Horse Crap,
The Digital Market Has All Been Extremely Toxic,
The Digital Market Has All Been 1 Giant Lie,
There Is No Happy Digital Market,
The Digital Market Has Only Been 1 Flop After Another...

The Sooner People Wake Up & Realize
How Much Money Was Wasted On Just
So Companies Can Rob Them??

The Sooner They Could Stop Themselves
From A Trend That They Were Worned To
Stay Away From...

The Digital Market Was Always About Putting
Criminal Power In The Hands Of Corporate Companies,
& Every Company Pretty Much Took The Bait For
That Power...

That Exposed Them To All The Customers...

Now Their Exposure Has Been Wide Open,
None Of Them Are Gonna Wanna Give Up
That Power, Simply, Because It Would Be Like
A Death Sentence If They Did, ~_~


I'm Just Curious What Happens If Rockstar
Actually Delivers Their Grand Theft Auto 6 Game,
& It Makes A Giant Wall Of Money??

What Happens To That Trendy GOD Power
All Those Other Companies Had Control Over??

Does It All Come Crashing Down?? o_____@

[This_is_Citrus]

Originally posted by GuRu Asaki:

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Plenty of games that are on game pass still had much better launches on Steam than Doom like E33, Oblivion, , Black Ops 6, Stalker 2 and Forza Horizon 5.

Doom is a famous IP. Being famous doesn't always mean it's that popular. Metroid and Mad Max are also famous but not that popular. Dooms popularity ceiling was Eternal.

People Do Not Know How To Stop Their Degrading Society...

What Can I Say, ~_~

Monkey See, Monkey Do...

---------------------------

Oh, Everyone Has To Buy Digital = Digital Is The Future
Oh, Everyone Has To All Be On Same Platform = We Hate Competition
Oh, Everyone Has To Be Mobilized = Battle Pass & Live Service Is The Future
Oh, Everyone Needs Frame Gen & AI & Upscaling = If You Love Ray Tracing Get This
Oh, Everyone Needs To Be On Game Pass Now = Inflation Sucks & Game Pass Cheap
Oh, Nobody Should Ever Own Anything Ever Again = You'll Love Poor & Poverty Ville


People Who Buy This /\ Are Idiots...

The Digital Market Has All Been Horse Crap,
The Digital Market Has All Been Extremely Toxic,
The Digital Market Has All Been 1 Giant Lie,
There Is No Happy Digital Market,
The Digital Market Has Only Been 1 Flop After Another...

The Sooner People Wake Up & Realize
How Much Money Was Wasted On Just
So Companies Can Rob Them??

The Sooner They Could Stop Themselves
From A Trend That They Were Worned To
Stay Away From...

The Digital Market Was Always About Putting
Criminal Power In The Hands Of Corporate Companies,
& Every Company Pretty Much Took The Bait For
That Power...

That Exposed Them To All The Customers...

Now Their Exposure Has Been Wide Open,
None Of Them Are Gonna Wanna Give Up
That Power, Simply, Because It Would Be Like
A Death Sentence If They Did, ~_~


I'm Just Curious What Happens If Rockstar
Actually Delivers Their Grand Theft Auto 6 Game,
& It Makes A Giant Wall Of Money??

What Happens To That Trendy GOD Power
All Those Other Companies Had Control Over??

Does It All Come Crashing Down?? o_____@

I think this person is a bot? No human talks like this.

[alex010300]

Well the game pass people will not be getting the Campaign DLC that comes with premium. Not out yet but us owners will get to play them extra levels.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Well the game pass people will not be getting the Campaign DLC that comes with premium. Not out yet but us owners will get to play them extra levels.

You can buy those and add them to the free base game...Shoulda got gamepass

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Well the game pass people will not be getting the Campaign DLC that comes with premium. Not out yet but us owners will get to play them extra levels.

And by then they'll be a discount on steam for the base game we can buy so no loss what so ever.