Why isn't this Heretic or Quake?

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

I wanted those series to have a reboot for the longest time.
This seems Heretic if I squint my eyes a little.
Brand recognition issues maybe?

Also, I am not convinced because all Eternal lacked was official mod support and these games seem more and more scripted which means I doubt it will have mod support at launch.

[Brohan Creates]

We may still be getting them in due time. I know many want both of those Franchises remade as well. I just hope they just dont just STICK to Doom. Quake is loved by many or if anything, MORE SO than DOOM cause it actually had spinoffs as arena shooters. They need to do a Quake 1 and 2 remake sooner than later.

[Neon Triangle]

Honestly if they're going to do anything with Heretic, they should bring back Heretic 2 first since it's not currently available in any storefronts (also Hexen 2's expansion pack).

But as to why, it's mainly because Doom is more popular in this day and age. Heretic is only now relevant because Microsoft owns both Activision and Bethesda now (hopefully ending any ownership/legal issues that plagued that series for so long) and Quake hasn't had a mainline game in years sadly. Doom is just the safest option in terms of new releases.

[Aya]

Originally posted by Neon Triangle:

Honestly if they're going to do anything with Heretic, they should bring back Heretic 2 first since it's not currently available in any storefronts (also Hexen 2's expansion pack).

But as to why, it's mainly because Doom is more popular in this day and age. Heretic is only now relevant because Microsoft owns both Activision and Bethesda now (hopefully ending any ownership/legal issues that plagued that series for so long) and Quake hasn't had a mainline game in years sadly. Doom is just the safest option in terms of new releases.

Heretic and Hexen should not be revived tbh. Raven Software sold their souls to Activision, and I don't think Microsoft has any interests in forcing Activision to relinquish said souls.

If we get Hexen in current year, it'd just be Call of Duty with magic, with Ettins being relegated to QTEs and gargoyles turret sections. Everything else would be modern weapons, regenerative health, whack-a-mole shooting, and spell scrolls acting similarly to Advanced Warfare's Exo Launcher

[Neon Triangle]

Originally posted by Aya:

Heretic and Hexen should not be revived tbh. Raven Software sold their souls to Activision, and I don't think Microsoft has any interests in forcing Activision to relinquish said souls.

If we get Hexen in current year, it'd just be Call of Duty with magic, with Ettins being relegated to QTEs and gargoyles turret sections. Everything else would be modern weapons, regenerative health, whack-a-mole shooting, and spell scrolls acting similarly to Advanced Warfare's Exo Launcher

True, but I would like to be able to buy Heretic 2 and Hexen 2's Portal to Praveus expansion, and hopefully as remasters similar to what they did with Quake 1 and 2 (support for modern systems, working music, etc.). As I said before, re-release the games that aren't currently available to buy before considering anything else, because right now only the first Heretic and Hexen games are technically feature-complete (never mind that you have to use a source port to play them on modern systems).

[Scorpio]

Heretic could become own thing but you need to remember that Id is still slaves to Bethesda and they need present them something that will get approval of shareholders. DOOM became big so they will keep milking it.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Originally posted by Aya:

Originally posted by Neon Triangle:

Honestly if they're going to do anything with Heretic, they should bring back Heretic 2 first since it's not currently available in any storefronts (also Hexen 2's expansion pack).

But as to why, it's mainly because Doom is more popular in this day and age. Heretic is only now relevant because Microsoft owns both Activision and Bethesda now (hopefully ending any ownership/legal issues that plagued that series for so long) and Quake hasn't had a mainline game in years sadly. Doom is just the safest option in terms of new releases.

Heretic and Hexen should not be revived tbh. Raven Software sold their souls to Activision, and I don't think Microsoft has any interests in forcing Activision to relinquish said souls.

If we get Hexen in current year, it'd just be Call of Duty with magic, with Ettins being relegated to QTEs and gargoyles turret sections. Everything else would be modern weapons, regenerative health, whack-a-mole shooting, and spell scrolls acting similarly to Advanced Warfare's Exo Launcher

Heretic in current year seems to be Doom The Dark Ages.

[Aya]

Originally posted by Knud den Store 🧙‍♂:

Originally posted by Aya:

Heretic and Hexen should not be revived tbh. Raven Software sold their souls to Activision, and I don't think Microsoft has any interests in forcing Activision to relinquish said souls.

If we get Hexen in current year, it'd just be Call of Duty with magic, with Ettins being relegated to QTEs and gargoyles turret sections. Everything else would be modern weapons, regenerative health, whack-a-mole shooting, and spell scrolls acting similarly to Advanced Warfare's Exo Launcher

Heretic in current year seems to be Doom The Dark Ages.

Heretic and Hexen are properties of Activision, rather than Bethesda. Raven Software are the franchises' creator, though see my previous point about the transaction of souls.

[DooM Poster]

not even 1 day in, and we already have our first bait thread. bravo.

[PootisMayo]

Originally posted by DooM Poster:

not even 1 day in, and we already have our first bait thread. bravo.

It doesn't sound like bait to me. Therefore, you have been reported.

[Brohan Creates]

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

Originally posted by DooM Poster:

not even 1 day in, and we already have our first bait thread. bravo.

It doesn't sound like bait to me. Therefore, you have been reported.

It isn't. Its an ACTUAL good suggestion. I think Quake 1 and 2 would sell very well if they were remade.

[DooM Poster]

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

Originally posted by DooM Poster:

not even 1 day in, and we already have our first bait thread. bravo.

It doesn't sound like bait to me. Therefore, you have been reported.

please report yourself to the nearest UAC facility for demonification.

[DooM Poster]

Originally posted by PromCreations #ChristisKing:

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

It doesn't sound like bait to me. Therefore, you have been reported.

It isn't. Its an ACTUAL good suggestion. I think Quake 1 and 2 would sell very well if they were remade.

??? this thread is this forum's very first bait threads. i hope you will remember this thread 4 years from now.

[Neon Triangle]

Originally posted by PromCreations #ChristisKing:

I think Quake 1 and 2 would sell very well if they were remade.

At least for now we have the excellent remasters that make the old versions of Quake playable on modern systems, but I still feel this new game is being used to springboard Quake back into potential relevancy. There must be a reason they are using so much darker and almost gothic imagery this time around, and not just for Doom's sake. But that's just wishful thinking on my part I suppose.

[^7R4^2Z^70R]

Because $

[Brohan Creates]

Originally posted by Neon Triangle:

Originally posted by PromCreations #ChristisKing:

I think Quake 1 and 2 would sell very well if they were remade.

At least for now we have the excellent remasters that make the old versions of Quake playable on modern systems, but I still feel this new game is being used to springboard Quake back into potential relevancy. There must be a reason they are using so much darker and almost gothic imagery this time around, and not just for Doom's sake. But that's just wishful thinking on my part I suppose.

Yeah I think so too. First Quake was set in a more dark fantasy/medieval world so it would make sense.