DOOM: The Dark Ages

DOOM: The Dark Ages

Ch33zyDischarg3 Jun 9, 2024 @ 11:56am
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2016 Doom > Doom Eternal
Eternal was a good game, but the gameplay loop and mechanics were a step backwards from the 2016 reboot.

Give us gameplay more similar to the 2016 masterpiece, please.
Originally posted by Raz'Hikel:
Hot take OP but I agree.
For one I didn't like how nerfed the melee was or how ammo was much scarcer.

There was also the big shift in tone/artstyle, lots of really out of place platforming props that don't fit the level.

Doomguy himself didn't have the same aura of this brutal, silent, faceless stranger he did in the first game that made him feel so mysterious and intimidating. It's as if in trying to construct an over the top 40k style lore around the character they made him feel less interesting. Less is more.
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Ch33zyDischarg3 Jul 14, 2024 @ 8:54am 
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.
Orkhepaj Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.
np mate , it was pretty clear for everyone who played both games
Sar Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Orkhepaj:
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.
np mate , it was pretty clear for everyone who played both games
Well, it’s not clear for me. And yeah, I finished both games several times on Nightmare.
Last edited by Sar; Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:40am
Ace Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Sar:
Originally posted by Orkhepaj:
np mate , it was pretty clear for everyone who played both games
Well, it’s not clear for me. And yeah, I finished both games several times on Nightmare.

Same, it's not like they could just go to our profiles & see game time, i guess low quality bait is easier.
Sir Oinksalot Jul 14, 2024 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.
Wait really? It thought Eternal was better. But hey, no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ about my opinion so.... Ya.
Sar Jul 14, 2024 @ 11:07am 
You gotta go easy on 2016 lovers. Every time we made a poll, Eternal was in the lead. Must be devastating.

https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2x6LbZ0
Sir Oinksalot Jul 14, 2024 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Sar:
You gotta go easy on 2016 lovers. Every time we made a poll, Eternal was in the lead. Must be devastating.

https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2x6LbZ0
Eternals leading by a lot.
Sar Jul 14, 2024 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by Pig5546:
Originally posted by Sar:
You gotta go easy on 2016 lovers. Every time we made a poll, Eternal was in the lead. Must be devastating.

https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2x6LbZ0
Eternals leading by a lot.
And there’s a bunch of people saying that both were good, too!
Sir Oinksalot Jul 14, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Sar:
Originally posted by Pig5546:
Eternals leading by a lot.
And there’s a bunch of people saying that both were good, too!
I wouldn't call it a lot. But a few.
Ch33zyDischarg3 Jul 14, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Sar:
Originally posted by Pig5546:
Eternals leading by a lot.
And there’s a bunch of people saying that both were good, too!

Both games are awesome.
Grampire (Banned) Jul 15, 2024 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.

Hey I mean if you want to color people who prefer 2016 as oblivious and obstinate then that absolutely should be your conclusion from this thread.

Or you're just finally acknowledging this thread is the cesspit it was designed to be from post #1?

Either way - I guess some of us have more respect for the intelligence of people who prefer 2016. *shrug* Maybe you'll get there.
Ch33zyDischarg3 Jul 15, 2024 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Judge Grampire:
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
I am glad we've come to a concrete conclusion: 2016 is the superior game and hopefully D: DA is closer to it, than Eternal.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Ace, I hope you can beat 2016 at some point.

Hey I mean if you want to color people who prefer 2016 as oblivious and obstinate then that absolutely should be your conclusion from this thread.

Or you're just finally acknowledging this thread is the cesspit it was designed to be from post #1?

Either way - I guess some of us have more respect for the intelligence of people who prefer 2016. *shrug* Maybe you'll get there.


You're so uptight and angry. Calm down. I tried to end this thread with a light hearted (and obvious) joke. Maybe some time with your new and very impressive guitar will make you feel better?
Sar Jul 15, 2024 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by Judge Grampire:
While I loathe discussions on "what is Doom-like," if a demon being alive is point A and it being brutally murdered is point B, any instance where the Slayer isn't drawing the straightest, most direct and brutal line between those two would be a departure from his 30 year legacy. Riding a demon would be thematically inconsistent to his instant destruction of the argent filters in 2016. Using a demon to attack is outright heresy (and yes, I disliked the SSG sequence in Eternal and would have much preferred to retrieve it myself).
I don’t want any Cacodemon riding, but Doomguy isn’t above using demonic tech when it suits him. His Crucible, in-BFG and IIRC even the suit run on Argent energy. That’s how he heals from killing demons.
Last edited by Sar; Jul 15, 2024 @ 10:35am
Grampire (Banned) Jul 15, 2024 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Sar:
Originally posted by Judge Grampire:
While I loathe discussions on "what is Doom-like," if a demon being alive is point A and it being brutally murdered is point B, any instance where the Slayer isn't drawing the straightest, most direct and brutal line between those two would be a departure from his 30 year legacy. Riding a demon would be thematically inconsistent to his instant destruction of the argent filters in 2016. Using a demon to attack is outright heresy (and yes, I disliked the SSG sequence in Eternal and would have much preferred to retrieve it myself).
I don’t want any Cacodemon riding, but Doomguy isn’t above using demonic tech when it suits him. His Crucible, in-BFG and IIRC even the suit run on Argent energy. That’s how he heals from killing demons.

You're right partner - I forgot about the crucible which definitely counts. Probably the rocket launcher - AKA "Paingiver" from Eternal falls into that category too.

All right - let's queue the cacodemon rodeos. Why not I guess?
Sar Jul 15, 2024 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:
Originally posted by Judge Grampire:

Hey I mean if you want to color people who prefer 2016 as oblivious and obstinate then that absolutely should be your conclusion from this thread.

Or you're just finally acknowledging this thread is the cesspit it was designed to be from post #1?

Either way - I guess some of us have more respect for the intelligence of people who prefer 2016. *shrug* Maybe you'll get there.


You're so uptight and angry. Calm down. I tried to end this thread with a light hearted (and obvious) joke. Maybe some time with your new and very impressive guitar will make you feel better?
Generally jokes are supposed to be funny for somebody else, not just the person telling the joke. But you do you!
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