2016 Doom > Doom Eternal

[Ch33zyDischarg3]

Eternal was a good game, but the gameplay loop and mechanics were a step backwards from the 2016 reboot.

Give us gameplay more similar to the 2016 masterpiece, please.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Ace:

That's still not saying that DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be, you're taking it out of context & making up a narrative that isnt there, they are describing what they combat will be like in DA, that's it, you're factually wrong there. They also did say glory kllls will come back, which is also in the trailer.

it aint out of context. the dev even had to stop himself from saying. "why didnt we just do that" contractual obligations and whatnot. the proof is there. and its never going away. DE was the wrong direction by there own admission. its not a false narrative. its now a fact.
oh and lets not forget this is a AAA gaming company, if it was the "right direction" they would just make DE again. shareholders would force it. even they arnt asking for it.

Incorrect, they said that each doom game needs to stand on it's own & be seperate from each other. They never said that DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be, stop making things up.

[Jordan_Peterson]

yeah smashing together from 20 years of Doom and even using elements from Quake
and borrowing from the mod community defenitly says:"This game stands on its own!".
LMAO
So how does a Doom game look like that does not stand on it's own?
That statement makes again zero sense, cause no logic, just like all the other coping. Just more marketing-brainwashing-gibberish-bs. And people fall for that.

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

it aint out of context. the dev even had to stop himself from saying. "why didnt we just do that" contractual obligations and whatnot. the proof is there. and its never going away. DE was the wrong direction by there own admission. its not a false narrative. its now a fact.
oh and lets not forget this is a AAA gaming company, if it was the "right direction" they would just make DE again. shareholders would force it. even they arnt asking for it.

Incorrect, they said that each doom game needs to stand on it's own & be seperate from each other. They never said that DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be, stop making things up.

ya. and everyones a winner . ya that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died long ago. not admitting you messed up is pure ego. and seeming how they handled mick gordon and staff. they are overflowing with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ego to spew XD stand alone in the dumpster DE. nothing is made up. we have proof. cope.

[Sar]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

stand alone in the dumpster DE

Isn’t it standing there with Doom 2016? Since that was also a poor attempt at Doom.

[Zorro]

2016 is fun but only once or twice, it's too easy

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Ace:

Incorrect, they said that each doom game needs to stand on it's own & be seperate from each other. They never said that DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be, stop making things up.

ya. and everyones a winner . ya that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died long ago. not admitting you messed up is pure ego. and seeming how they handled mick gordon and staff. they are overflowing with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ego to spew XD stand alone in the dumpster DE. nothing is made up. we have proof. cope.

Stop making up things that never happened & spreading misinformation. people can just watch the interview & see that they never said that.

Be better.

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

ya. and everyones a winner . ya that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ died long ago. not admitting you messed up is pure ego. and seeming how they handled mick gordon and staff. they are overflowing with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ego to spew XD stand alone in the dumpster DE. nothing is made up. we have proof. cope.

Stop making up things that never happened & spreading misinformation. people can just watch the interview & see that they never said that.

Be better.

ah the standard playbook for everyone who knows they are wrong. they pull the " spreading misinformation" card. its not misinformation, its just something you don't like to hear. be better.

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by P4Novy:

Originally posted by Ace:

Stop making up things that never happened & spreading misinformation. people can just watch the interview & see that they never said that.

Be better.

I defy you to show this supposed interview you mumble about.

gamespot, about 2 weeks ago.

[Mercenary Orange]

I think i see the OP's point of view but.....2016 was still the same thing as Eternal imo. both games and im sure this new one will keep having you either glory kill or be stuck without ammo. but now with the shield mechanic will definitely play a big role next year.

We're like, ages beyond the classic doom series

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Ace:

Stop making up things that never happened & spreading misinformation. people can just watch the interview & see that they never said that.

Be better.

ah the standard playbook for everyone who knows they are wrong. they pull the " spreading misinformation" card. its not misinformation, its just something you don't like to hear. be better.

DE:fenders in a nutshell. All they have left when you debunk or destroy them with logic is troll you by saying you don't have played the game even when they know and have seen that you played the game or they just go back to denial. But that's not the sad part of it.
The sad part is they follow you around and quote and reply to each and every post of you no matter if its that topic or another one. Its like they start an obsession with you as soon as you proved them wrong or exposed their extreme bias.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Ace:

They never said that, now you're just spreading misinformation.

HA. full cope. they exactly said that, and i quote.
" projectile speed. it something we never got quite right. in 2016 and eternal strafing was there , but it was just keep moving. in the original it was soldier firing slow moving projectiles and they hit hard. you start to slalom between them and that where the movement comes in. instead of constructing a multi tiered arena to keep you moving, bc thats what moving means in the modern doom games, what if we ground it, make it slower and create patterns and thats the maze your gonna move through. then it was like, oh why didnt we, we should do this. its what they did 30 years ago and it really worked. "

direct from a interview on gamespot with Marty Stratton and Hugo Martin themselves. saying the movement they made in 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be. and how dark ages is being designed as.

This isn't even what the original Doom games were either - at least not in their entirety.

Dodging slower moving projectiles applied to like imps, barons and to a lesser degree revenants. A lot of demons were hitscanners that basically checked if you were moving or in LoS. No slow moving projectiles there.

Patterns just sounds like level/demon location memorization. Already in 2016 and Eternal.

Marty and Hugo are - as usual - feeding originalists a line to try and convince them that TDA is more like the OG Dooms so you'll shut up about it "not being Doom."

They did the same sort of hype crap with Eternal. That's all this is and it sounds like you're gullible enough to buy it. And you'll be more likely to buy the game, and then complain about how "not Doom" it is. So I guess they're playing their cards - and you - well.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Ace:

Stop making up things that never happened & spreading misinformation. people can just watch the interview & see that they never said that.

Be better.

ah the standard playbook for everyone who knows they are wrong. they pull the " spreading misinformation" card. its not misinformation, its just something you don't like to hear. be better.

So you make a claim thats not true & provide zero evidence to back it up & the people who've watched it telling you that they didn't say anything that you're claiming & instead you double down & still provide no evidence. No worry's i'll do it for you.

https://youtu.be/g3KftOn8YdE

Spoiler! They never said or even hinted at your claim of "DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be" They are as i said describing the game play being more grounded, to quote hugo "you're going to be like a abrams tank, it's a stand & fight game". Also glorys kills are returning

You're still wrong & need to stop spreading misinformation but i'm sure you'll take something they said out of context & twist it to suit your own narrative ;)

Be better.

EDIT - I'll take the jester award as a i win & you have no counter argument. GG

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

ah the standard playbook for everyone who knows they are wrong. they pull the " spreading misinformation" card. its not misinformation, its just something you don't like to hear. be better.

So you make a claim thats not true & provide zero evidence to back it up & the people who've watched it telling you that they didn't say anything that you're claiming & instead you double down & still provide no evidence. No worry's i'll do it for you.

https://youtu.be/g3KftOn8YdE

Spoiler! They never said or even hinted at your claim of "DE was the wrong direction or that 2016 and DE was not what a doom game should be" They are as i said describing the game play being more grounded, to quote hugo "you're going to be like a abrams tank, it's a stand & fight game". Also glorys kills are returning

You're still wrong & need to stop spreading misinformation but i'm sure you'll take something they said out of context & twist it to suit your own narrative ;)

Be better.

EDIT - I'll take the jester award as a i win & you have no counter argument. GG

ya. twisting it. you keep huffing that copeium. even grampire has moved over to the , its just a lie to attempt to get people who didnt like DE to pre-order argument .

have fun with your, leave the multi-million dollar corporation alone stance. i am better than you.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

ya. twisting it. you keep huffing that copeium. even grampire has moved over to the , its just a lie to attempt to get people who didnt like DE to pre-order argument .

have fun with your, leave the multi-million dollar corporation alone stance. i am better than you.

Video is there that shows you're wrong, but by all means keep arguing against facts which is pretty deluded to be honest, But then again i can't say i expected much from our exchange.

You made a claim, it was proven wrong & now you're upset.

Be better.

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

ya. twisting it. you keep huffing that copeium. even grampire has moved over to the , its just a lie to attempt to get people who didnt like DE to pre-order argument .

have fun with your, leave the multi-million dollar corporation alone stance. i am better than you.

Video is there that shows you're wrong, but by all means keep arguing against facts which is pretty deluded to be honest, But then again i can't say i expected much from our exchange.

You made a claim, it was proven wrong & now you're upset.

Be better.

video proving me and everyone who said De didnt feel or play like a doom game. im the opposite of upset. im ecstatic . solid proof DE was garbage that nobody can deny. you can keep trying tho. try to ignore the proof all you want dosent make that video go away.

and im still better