2016 Doom > Doom Eternal

[Ch33zyDischarg3]

Eternal was a good game, but the gameplay loop and mechanics were a step backwards from the 2016 reboot.

Give us gameplay more similar to the 2016 masterpiece, please.

[Grilled Cheese]

Originally posted by Schizm:

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

easy i didnt play them on steam

You have thousands and thousands of hours in other games on steam and own 2016 and you played it on a different platform?

Yea, not buying that buddy.

you know whats better than steam? $5 on ebay for a used console copy.

[Sar]

Originally posted by djcarey:

32.6% isn't much for a AAA game...

I would post a comparison but I legitimately have no idea what to compare Eternal to. AAA campaign-focused shooters are pretty much not a thing anymore.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

Originally posted by Schizm:

You have thousands and thousands of hours in other games on steam and own 2016 and you played it on a different platform?

Yea, not buying that buddy.

you know whats better than steam? $5 on ebay for a used console copy.

You know what's better than a console copy? $59.99 on Steam for a PC version of the game and not being saddled with a DRM box that gets mothballed in 5 years.

[Ace]

Originally posted by P4Novy:

This is a false metric to evaluate the value of DOOM Eternal to the playerbase. You must show how far people went into DOOM and DOOM Eternal, the achievements and how many actually enjoyed both games.
DOOM was released 12 years after Doom 3 with moderate hype. DOOM Eternal had a huge hype thanks to the foundation of DOOM, with very strong Marketing, so of course more people were impulsive to buy DOOM Eternal.
Yet, time proved that DOOM is the better valued game of the 2. In the end, only the niched more skilled players actually enjoyed DOOM Eternal, and not even the game director knew how to play it properly, let alone the more casual audience:
https://youtu.be/sJoyFx0ZpSU?si=eg-TbZr5BEKfgL9H
If DOOM: The Dark Ages tries to use DOOM Eternal as the foundation of its conception, it shall alienate further its potential playerbase. Be thankful DOOM TDA will be released for PC GamePass day 1, as I learned earlier today, otherwise much fewer people wouldnrisk to play DOOM TDA on launch!

Yeah a chart showing the exact number of players currently & all time.... Now you're arguing & deflecting against facts, really unhealthy mindset there.

[Orkhepaj]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Originally posted by Grilled Cheese:

you know whats better than steam? $5 on ebay for a used console copy.

You know what's better than a console copy? $59.99 on Steam for a PC version of the game and not being saddled with a DRM box that gets mothballed in 5 years.

lol not for 60euro

all i see is doom 2016 is much more loved than DE

[Ace]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

all i see is doom 2016 is much more loved than DE

Which has already been proven as wrong. I remember when trolls used to at least try.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by Grampire:

You know what's better than a console copy? $59.99 on Steam for a PC version of the game and not being saddled with a DRM box that gets mothballed in 5 years.

lol not for 60euro

all i see is doom 2016 is much more loved than DE

Get your eyes checked maybe?

And yeah consoles suck. I'd pay a premium for PC every single day.

Not that you have to - mind you. I'm betting you can get Eternal on PC for about as cheap as you can get a physical copy (lol) on ebay.

Edit: and lo-and behold, it's now 9.99 during the summer sale. Still probably cheaper places to get a key than that.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by Grampire:

You know what's better than a console copy? $59.99 on Steam for a PC version of the game and not being saddled with a DRM box that gets mothballed in 5 years.

lol not for 60euro

all i see is doom 2016 is much more loved than DE

true.

[Uncle Mikoolo]

I agree with Doom 2016 being a more fun game, in my opinion, to play. Eternal is to me, even on easiest, a constant stressfull experience in some areas where you instead for being a badass demon slayer where you can use the super shotgun to pwn everything you're forced to constantly juggle between weapons all the time due to always running out of ammo and having no small monsters to respawn that you can use the chainsaw on to refill ammo from.

If the game is like Eternal then it's a no buy for me but not because I think that the game is bad and should cater to my tastes but because it's not my type of fps game.

[Jordan_Peterson]

So fun to see how many also agree with me that 2016 is the better Doom game and DE did not live up to its standards.
But this will not last long, cause most people will leave the forum of an meh singleplayer game. What will remain is people who like to discuss games or hardcore fans with a black/white perspective.

[DooM Poster]

Originally posted by Ch33zyDischarg3:

Originally posted by Ace:

0/10 bait.

Be better.

Pro tip- the rocket launcher shoots rockets. You're welcome. 😊

how the mighty have fallen

Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Originally posted by Kiloton:

He's not a troll, you and the rest of the Eternal Lolipop Guild are just intolerant of other opinions to the point of perceiving disagreement as trolling.

I think a lot of Eternal enjoyers are also members of the Supermario Appreciation Secret Society and are unable to comprehend that platforming in a Doom game is possibly one of the most un-metal things ever.

In fact I think that plat sections in Eternal should have had dubstep playing over it or something equally cringe to set the mood right.

there's already a thread on platforming discourse on the eternal forum. go check it out to be educated!

Originally posted by P4Novy:

Originally posted by DooM Poster:

all the other humor is needless for the environment of the game and the tone of the game. the game is about killing demons.

another way to shut down your argument is that the game takes place in 21XX. would you not think humanity has become a little more enlightened on gender, sex, and identity more than 100 years in the future?

Absolutely NOT, after all, Mankind had to literally collect (Argent) Energy from Hell to continue being "civilized". Otherwise, Hell on Earth without even needing Demons.

oh damn, an energy crisis? a direct reference to the climate crisis that we in the real world are experiencing? POLITICS IN MY GAME MUCH? NO THANK YOU! I'm the old norm! I want normal beer!

[Orkhepaj]

Originally posted by Uncle Mikoolo:

I agree with Doom 2016 being a more fun game, in my opinion, to play. Eternal is to me, even on easiest, a constant stressfull experience in some areas where you instead for being a badass demon slayer where you can use the super shotgun to pwn everything you're forced to constantly juggle between weapons all the time due to always running out of ammo and having no small monsters to respawn that you can use the chainsaw on to refill ammo from.

If the game is like Eternal then it's a no buy for me but not because I think that the game is bad and should cater to my tastes but because it's not my type of fps game.

Yes
And the constant looking for ammo thing just stops the gameplay flow.
Not much fun imho.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Yes
And the constant looking for ammo thing just stops the gameplay flow.
Not much fun imho.

So literally every FPS ever made, good thing eternal has unlimited ammo & all i need to do is press a button.

The 2016 is better crowd sure do have weak excuses for being bad players.

[swenor]

Originally posted by FlyBoogy:

Nah. Once Eternal clicks you won't be able to go back.

Exactly.

I was rising the bandagon of sad knobs ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on Eternal....and then it clicked.

What can I say to Eternal haters:
Git Gud

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

And the constant looking for ammo thing just stops the gameplay flow.
Not much fun imho.

Use the mechanics game provides you with. No ammo issues.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Damn, someone else than OP got an out-time.

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by Uncle Mikoolo:

I agree with Doom 2016 being a more fun game, in my opinion, to play. Eternal is to me, even on easiest, a constant stressfull experience in some areas where you instead for being a badass demon slayer where you can use the super shotgun to pwn everything you're forced to constantly juggle between weapons all the time due to always running out of ammo and having no small monsters to respawn that you can use the chainsaw on to refill ammo from.

If the game is like Eternal then it's a no buy for me but not because I think that the game is bad and should cater to my tastes but because it's not my type of fps game.

Yes
And the constant looking for ammo thing just stops the gameplay flow.
Not much fun imho.

Which was also one of the most named complains about DE. And they even explained why they went this road. Mainly to save time and work-load since it is way easier to let the player do the job and not think about game designing a good level and where to place the ammo, which would give the levels and the player a more enriched experience.