NPCs use MY ammo at Mall - 1500 rounds lost

[DJ]

I am enjoying the game but my run was ended rather unfairly near the end on day 3, after exfiltrating from the Mall map with ZERO 9mm ammo.

Throughout the whole game up to this point, the NPCs have used their own ammo.

There is a massive defensive action to be fought on this map, it even comes with four turrets at the main choke point, as well as all the NPC combatants I rescued (i had three shooters and a sword/board guy).

I played accordingly but got screwed leaving the map with ZERO 9mm because, unlike every other map, the NPCs have been burning MY ammo. This has ended my run as I didn't notice until after exfiltrating, and the save point is now me at day 2, with ZERO 9mm and soldiers with empty guns.

Grumpy!

(I acknowledge maybe something else was at play; perhaps my error somehow; but it feels like NPCs fired the ammo).

[conradproteus]

NPCs do not use any of the player ammo.
But environment turrets use 9mm ammo and player turret use 7.7mm


SO on mall if you have low 9mm either don't deploy or turn off environment turrets or try to reach this point with more ammo or just push and run

[DJ]

(You ready for the "ooooooohhhhhh" ?)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[K4Dragoon]

Originally posted by conradproteus:

NPCs do not use any of the player ammo.
But environment turrets use 9mm ammo and player turret use 7.7mm


SO on mall if you have low 9mm either don't deploy or turn off environment turrets or try to reach this point with more ammo or just push and run

not sure if it was 9mm that the turrets found on map was the ammo type they used since when im out of 7.7 they dont fire and are turned on

[conradproteus]

Originally posted by K4Dragoon:

Originally posted by conradproteus:

NPCs do not use any of the player ammo.
But environment turrets use 9mm ammo and player turret use 7.7mm


SO on mall if you have low 9mm either don't deploy or turn off environment turrets or try to reach this point with more ammo or just push and run

not sure if it was 9mm that the turrets found on map was the ammo type they used since when im out of 7.7 they dont fire and are turned on

Deployed turrets by engineer use 7.7mm
Deployed turrets by engineer that are from environment boxes use 9.9mm

[Darkhart]

Originally posted by conradproteus:

Deployed turrets by engineer use 7.7mm
Deployed turrets by engineer that are from environment boxes use 9.9mm

When did this change happen? Previously you said 'Turrets build from environment have unlimited ammo' I don't know how I feel about this change...

[conradproteus]

Originally posted by Darkhart:

Originally posted by conradproteus:

Deployed turrets by engineer use 7.7mm
Deployed turrets by engineer that are from environment boxes use 9.9mm

When did this change happen? Previously you said 'Turrets build from environment have unlimited ammo' I don't know how I feel about this change...

90% of PLayers end game with 6k-7k 9mm so this change was part of the balance adjustment

[Old Man Bryan]

Could there be tooltips in the game such as when you hover over a turret telling us stuff like what ammo it uses?

[DJ]

Oh cheeky - so it did change during my run, screwing me at the end :P

Righteous grumpy!

[OKOK]

My machine gunner can empty 1400 in a short mission... He throw bullet non stop.

As for environment turret using 9mm. Is that even necessary. It a single player game so why need to balance.