So, how is it better than EHM 2007?

[Planestranger]

I was enjoing my time (got addictedness rating "remember to drink") with EHM 2005 and 2007. The latter one is still on my hard drive and I play a season once in a while with randomly generated database.
My queston is what was added to this game comparing to 2007? Are there any notable new features or improvements to the game mechanics? Can you "talk" to players or order younger players to learn from veterans like in Football Manager or something like that? Are there any new options in trade negotiations? Can leagues or their rules change (like changing player resrictions during the period of time or expanding to new areas)? Are there any new more detailed attributes for players or club personel? What is the point (except for donating future hockey games) in buying this thing?

[db_smooth]

All they did is add a new background image and moved some parts of the GUI from the left side to the top of the screen and called it a new game.
There is absolutly nothing new really and just looks like another early access scam.

The devteam said they are going to roll out updates every 2 weeks however the first updates are very poor this far and it remains to be seen just how serious they are about bringing this game back.

[TrolleybusFan]

Originally posted by db_smooth:

All they did is add a new background image and moved some parts of the GUI from the left side to the top of the screen and called it a new game.
There is absolutly nothing new really and just looks like another early access scam.

The devteam said they are going to roll out updates every 2 weeks however the first updates are very poor this far and it remains to be seen just how serious they are about bringing this game back.

I hope this is a joke post? OP Go to SI Games forums to see what has changed. The 2007 games has been rewritten and is being updated every 2 weeks by the team. They said themselvs that given the support for the game is still there then it will be out of early access in 'months not years' The game is 100% playable so don't be put off with early access in the name. It's missing some playable leagues and some of the more extreme rules are working yet but they are being fixed (just check the two updates they've released already' If you liked 2007 you will this version too.

[Planestranger]

Uskoton, i've seen the history of updates. There are only bugfixes, balance tweaks and minor UI changes in logs. So, could you precisely tell what is new?

[TrolleybusFan]

http://community.sigames.com/index.php

[Planestranger]

Uskoton, I see you have nothing to say except copy-pasting advertising text. Thanks.

[Riz]

Aside from all the league structures and rules being updated to modern rules (compared to the 2006 rules used in 07), there have been a lot of under-the-hood changes to the game's core and a some all new features/functionality. Here's a quick recap of the all-new stuff:

- Graphical playoff tree for viewing playoff stages
- Skin graphics for attributes on player and non-player profiles
- New AI for evaluating the overall roster changes in trades
- All new database format that will offer better support for customisation in the future
- Support for historical databases (historical 2006 database provided)
- Support for rookie goals/assists/points records in record config
- New attribute modelling with support for player role types
- New player and non-player progression modelling
- Separate host nations for different stages of a competition (World Championships Div 1 groups)
- Host cities for tournaments
- Tournament host announcement news
- Tracking of match penalties separate from game misconducts based on the severity of the offense
- Improved league selection options with the ability to select leagues down to wanted level or individual independent leagues where possible
- Support for new all-star game format with team captains picking the two teams
- AI GM's now have a patience rating in trades when human is setting up a trade offer and will not give dynamic feedback endlessly on proposals
- New skin
- Improved UI layout with new player and non-player profile screens
- Integrated tutorial system for key screens in the game
- New nation information screen with links to top leagues, clubs and players
- Added option to export player stats from any comp in csv format (regular season and playoff stats)
- Added a "scout recommendations" view on the scout's player list panel to show current and future star ratings
- Option to hide all attribute values for added challenge
- Show Boxscores screen to control which daily boxscores to display
- New zoomed-in 2D view for playing/viewing games

Hope this helps.

[Merpo]

Originally posted by Planestranger:

Uskoton, I see you have nothing to say except copy-pasting advertising text. Thanks.

Actually he linked you to a page that shows all the changes.

[Aaron]

coz it is better but not better than fm

[Planestranger]

Too bad they didn't add anything substantial to gameplay. Tweaking and re-tweaking of decade-old enginge, updating database, but nothing to make richer experience, no new events that can happen to you at all.

[Alles]

Originally posted by Planestranger:

Too bad they didn't add anything substantial to gameplay. Tweaking and re-tweaking of decade-old enginge, updating database, but nothing to make richer experience, no new events that can happen to you at all.

Give people a break. This version was done by Risto Remes almost solely. It's a miracle we have this game at all.

[Big Ram]

Originally posted by Alles:

Originally posted by Planestranger:

Too bad they didn't add anything substantial to gameplay. Tweaking and re-tweaking of decade-old enginge, updating database, but nothing to make richer experience, no new events that can happen to you at all.

Give people a break. This version was done by Risto Remes almost solely. It's a miracle we have this game at all.

Agreed; this version shouldn't even exist, let alone contain substantial additions.

EHM was cancelled over a decade ago. A few years later, license activation issues forced them to cease selling the game altogether. The EHM fanbase was now forever limited to anyone who already owned a copy of the game and could activate their license.

Then Riz stepped in. In his free time, he: A) brought the game to Steam; and B) made significant unseen changes to allow the amount of data editing we're enjoying today. Without him, some of us would still be running our dusty eSellerate copies of EHM 2007. And the rest of you would be unaware it ever existed.

[Planestranger]

Bir Ram, in other words you prove my point. There is no reason to buy this game if you own EHM 2005 and EHM 2007 like I do.