How Many Endings?

[Shotagonist]

See title. Also, I beat the game and I saved just before stepping into the U-Bahn for the last time. Regardless of what I say to this Hans person, it doesn't seem to affect the postgame text. Is there any variations to that?



Lofwyr dividing Berlin kinda sucks, I thought APEX was going to kill off Dragons that threaten the Flux State, why is that not acknowledged? (I handed over Feuerschwinge to the AI).

Oh and just out of curiosity, is it possible to end the game by siding with Vauclair?

[akze65]

-Yes you can side with Vauclair.
-The Flux State is more or less gone. But the Kreuzbasar might've be left alone depending on its precise location.

The endings will pretty much ammount to Lofwyr coming out on top no matter what you choose. Or the Panacea ending where you side with Vauclair and nobody wins.

[Ahbadah]

Maybe I read it wrong, but after handing Firewing off to APEX, Lofwyr actually *failed* to invade the flux state. Germany itself becomes corp controlled, but Berlin stays independant. I assume the wall was more or less to keep out corporate presence.

Edit: http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Berlin tells the story. It's just supposed to happen this way. Apparently, anarchists retain control of less than half of the eastern part of the city.

There's letting Firewing go, leaving her in captivity, and killing her. There's siding with Vauclair, and siding with APEX, AFAIK.

There are minor effects on the ending caused by convincing Vauclair to abandon his plans, or not, destroying the facility, or not, and releasing APEX, or not.

[Shotagonist]

Originally posted by Lord Sherbet - Duke of Custard:

Maybe I read it wrong, but after handing Firewing off to APEX, Lofwyr actually *failed* to invade the flux state. Germany itself becomes corp controlled, but Berlin stays independant. I assume the wall was more or less to keep out corporate presence.

Edit: http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Berlin tells the story. It's just supposed to happen this way. Apparently, anarchists retain control of less than half of the eastern part of the city.

There's letting Firewing go, leaving her in captivity, and killing her. There's siding with Vauclair, and siding with APEX, AFAIK.

There are minor effects on the ending caused by convincing Vauclair to abandon his plans, or not, destroying the facility, or not, and releasing APEX, or not.

Blergh, I hate it when games try to fit into a base canon. So apparently, it absolutely does not matter whether you free/kill/enslave/restrain Feuerschwinge because by this point the ending is fixed. Which is pretty upsetting because APEX promised it would use Panacea for good and you see none of that. There was an immense buildup to show APEX is a fearsome AI and you hand it one of the most dangerous beings in the world along with a virus that is capable of ending all life on the planet and it doesn't affect the story at all? I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that.

[G3rman]

In the end none of the choices matter anyway because there is no "game" left after the final mission. So far HBS has shown no desire to have save game data carry over between their games so really, Hong Kong won't be acting as a sequel to this and you won't see the impact, if any, your choices had.

Just like the first game, it leaves you with an ambiguous ending meant for you to speculate the future, based on the choices you made and the short epilogue events offered.

[Shotagonist]

In other words the developers mindset was "We couldn't give less of a ♥♥♥♥ how you ended the story so here's your generic post-game text that ignores everything in the plot"

And people complained about Mass Effect 3's ending.

[deadsanta]

Originally posted by Raikon:

In other words the developers mindset was "We couldn't give less of a ♥♥♥♥ how you ended the story so here's your generic post-game text that ignores everything in the plot"

And people complained about Mass Effect 3's ending.

I liked getting to choose my own color filter at the end of ME3!!!

[Shotagonist]

Originally posted by deadsanta:

Originally posted by Raikon:

In other words the developers mindset was "We couldn't give less of a ♥♥♥♥ how you ended the story so here's your generic post-game text that ignores everything in the plot"

And people complained about Mass Effect 3's ending.

I liked getting to choose my own color filter at the end of ME3!!!

Then you love this ending where you can choose which minor event that is unrelated to the plot of this game shows up in the ending While Berlin gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over by Lofwyr. According to Shadowrun lore, a small part of East Berlin is resisting against the Megacorp and The Kreuzbasar is situated at the "Moritzplatz" which is in former West Berlin. So yeah, your Crew gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over, happy birthday.

[Mundane Salad]

I just finished the Dragonfall all of 45 seconds ago, and hmmm.... I wish the post game text HAD been relevant to everything I just did. Where did my remote control dragon go? Are dragons in this game like, OP or something? Is this the illuminati where everyone in power is a lizard person?! /s

[Mundane Salad]

Originally posted by G3rman:

In the end none of the choices matter anyway because there is no "game" left after the final mission. So far HBS has shown no desire to have save game data carry over between their games so really, Hong Kong won't be acting as a sequel to this and you won't see the impact, if any, your choices had.

Just like the first game, it leaves you with an ambiguous ending meant for you to speculate the future, based on the choices you made and the short epilogue events offered.

I don't like how the game doesn't save once you've finished the game. I wished the missions had some sort of post-game playability, I ended up with a ton of cash and weapons I never used.

[Shotagonist]

Originally posted by rockpapermisc:

I just finished the Dragonfall all of 45 seconds ago, and hmmm.... I wish the post game text HAD been relevant to everything I just did. Where did my remote control dragon go? Are dragons in this game like, OP or something? Is this the illuminati where everyone in power is a lizard person?! /s

Shadowrun itself has a canon, and your game progress gets shoehorned into that canon to conveniently ignore whatever you did. And yes, Dragons are extremely OP in Shadowrun and your comparison is accurate.