FPS Cap?

[Milansta]

I dont know what to do...some say you need a strong machine in order to cap a game at a certain frame rate.Other says that because you have a weak machine you should cap the game at lower frame rate...so what should i do?Cap the game at 100 or 300 (defualt) fps?
Here are my specs
2,2ghz core duo
4gb ram
nvidia geforce gtx 210m
lenovo laptop

[Bybzi_Bybzi]

You could have some fps drops if you set it to 300. 100 is enough for comfortable play.

[Milansta]

Originally posted by Bybzi_Bybzi:

You could have some fps drops if you set it to 300. 100 is enough for comfortable play.

All right then

[Jack Schitt]

This is a common misunderstanding / misinturpritation. The fact is that you will not get any more frames per second (FPS) than you're monitors refresh rate which is generally 60ghz on most monitors or HDTVs. Even though an FPS reading may be reading above 60, you're still only getting 60 because that's all most monitors are capable of due to the screen's refresh rate. Some monitors are capable of 120ghz refresh rates, if yours is one of them even if your FPS reads above 120....you're only going to get 120FPS. It is just not possible to get more frames than what your monitors refresh rate is. An FPS reading over your monitors refresh rate is a false reading. That said if your FPS reads over your monitors refresh rate you're in good shape.

Some people may argue this all day long. This is the fact. People that argue and think differently are wrong, sorry to say.

While I'm lucky enough to have the capability to run at 120 I still only set my games to run at 60ghz refresh rate...just cuz...I don't see reason to beat down and hammer on my monitor when games run super smooth and beautifully clear at 60FPS/Ghz.

[Milansta]

Originally posted by LeighRoy Jenkins:

This is a common misunderstanding / misinturpritation. The fact is that you will not get any more frames per second (FPS) than you're monitors refresh rate which is generally 60ghz on most monitors or HDTVs. Even though an FPS reading may be reading above 60, you're still only getting 60 because that's all most monitors are capable of due to the screen's refresh rate. Some monitors are capable of 120ghz refresh rates, if yours is one of them even if your FPS reads above 120....you're only going to get 120FPS. It is just not possible to get more frames than what your monitors refresh rate is. An FPS reading over your monitors refresh rate is a false reading. That said if your FPS reads over your monitors refresh rate you're in good shape.

Some people may argue this all day long. This is the fact. People that argue and think differently are wrong, sorry to say.

While I'm lucky enough to have the capability to run at 120 I still only set my games to run at 60ghz refresh rate...just cuz...I don't see reason to beat down and hammer on my monitor when games run super smooth and beautifully clear at 60FPS/Ghz.

Im aware of that...so you are tryibg to tell me to set the max fps to 60 ?

[Jack Schitt]

No set them as high as you want. It's just that, as you said you know, you're not going to get more than your refresh rate no matter what you set them at. It is a good idea to set them high, but not too high, too high might cause issues. As your experience messing with the Nvidia settings....messing with these settings may actually cause problems instead of an improvement.

[Milansta]

Originally posted by LeighRoy Jenkins:

No set them as high as you want. It's just that, as you said you know, you're not going to get more than your refresh rate no matter what you set them at. It is a good idea to set them high, but not too high, too high might cause issues. As your experience messing with the Nvidia settings....messing with these settings may actually cause problems instead of an improvement.

what do you mean messing with the settings?havent done anything special excepting turning off texture filterings,etc.

[Jack Schitt]

You can't fix something that's not broken. If you attempt fixing something that's not broken, you break it.

It's running good, right? Therefore it's not broken therefore messing with it / editing the config files (as you were advised not to by multiple contributors in another thread where you asked about FPS configs) is and will cause issues instead of improvements. It's running, not broken, so leave it alone and enjoy playing the game is my suggestion.

Your question has to do with editing config files. Editing files is what I mean by messing because it's going to cause a mess. In the other thread you posted about having freezing issues that I helped you with the problem ended up being this same scenario: You messed with (edited) your video card settings.
It's in your best interest to take heed to that experience as a leason.

I don't intend to be offensive. I'd rather see the game run for you and have you enjoy it than continually break it by editing its files which may actually end up causing the VAC system or server admins to ban you from it and then you may never get to enjoy it. That is the path you're on.
It's running, and running good. Leave it alone and enjoy it. It's a fun game!

[Milansta]

Originally posted by LeighRoy Jenkins:

You can't fix something that's not broken. If you attempt fixing something that's not broken, you break it.

It's running good, right? Therefore it's not broken therefore messing with it / editing the config files (as you were advised not to by multiple contributors in another thread where you asked about FPS configs) is and will cause issues instead of improvements. It's running, not broken, so leave it alone and enjoy playing the game is my suggestion.

Your question has to do with editing config files. Editing files is what I mean by messing because it's going to cause a mess. In the other thread you posted about having freezing issues that I helped you with the problem ended up being this same scenario: You messed with (edited) your video card settings.
It's in your best interest to take heed to that experience as a leason.

I don't intend to be offensive. I'd rather see the game run for you and have you enjoy it than continually break it by editing its files which may actually end up causing the VAC system or server admins to ban you from it and then you may never get to enjoy it. That is the path you're on.
It's running, and running good. Leave it alone and enjoy it. It's a fun game!

its an autoexec file man calm down...this is not goldsrc era,where tweaking cfgs can get you banned for the slightest thing...it is a fps cfg.For increasing fps.Nothing else.Yes it was running well without the cfg,but with the cfg its running even better.End of the story.Even if i had a powerful comp i would still make my own cg file for seting up rates etc.

[Jack Schitt]

TWEAKER ALERT!!! lol
Yes, there are many config and autoexec file tweaks that can and will get you banned, believe it or not. I have seen it happen. Just like this scenario where many, many, people are saying "Leave it alone" and the person just insisted on tweaking, tweaking, tweaking, and tweaking it and used a scrtipt or command considered a cheat (that really isn't but VAC or a server admin see it as such) and got themselves banned then they come complaining that they're banned....and nobody cares.

Do as you wish. It's your stuff. It will be inappropriate to complaing if/when you get banned. I truly hope that doesn't happen. Good luck!

[Milansta]

Originally posted by LeighRoy Jenkins:

TWEAKER ALERT!!! lol
Yes, there are many config and autoexec file tweaks that can and will get you banned, believe it or not. I have seen it happen. Just like this scenario where many, many, people are saying "Leave it alone" and the person just insisted on tweaking, tweaking, tweaking, and tweaking it and used a scrtipt or command considered a cheat (that really isn't but VAC or a server admin see it as such) and got themselves banned then they come complaining that they're banned....and nobody cares.

Do as you wish. It's your stuff. It will be inappropriate to complaing if/when you get banned. I truly hope that doesn't happen. Good luck!

You really hate cfg's don't you? I would like to see what would you do if you were struggling as i am with my laptop to run a game...i love DOD:S and the Source engine.You get banned for cheating,hacking,you do not get banned for using a file which consists of commands that you can type in every server,in order to increase FPS or to save best settings.If you really want me to get banned,fine your problem,you are starting to annoy me...i have been using a cfg for increasing FPS for CS:S for over 2 years and did i got banned? No.DId anyone got banned using that cfg? No.Im unsubscribing from this discussion.

[Jack Schitt]

No I use an autoexec file myself for this game, and I have edited the key bindings to my preference through editing the file directly as well as using console commands.

The commands I'm reffering to that have the capability of causing a ban are some, not all, of the tick rate commands. Some of them edit the hit box which have been inappropriately used as a cheat by some players - who ended up getting banned for it. That is my concern.

I've already unsubscribed. This is my last reply. Best wishes!

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by |-Oc-| Bort:

This is a common misunderstanding / misinturpritation. The fact is that you will not get any more frames per second (FPS) than you're monitors refresh rate which is generally 60ghz on most monitors or HDTVs. Even though an FPS reading may be reading above 60, you're still only getting 60 because that's all most monitors are capable of due to the screen's refresh rate. Some monitors are capable of 120ghz refresh rates, if yours is one of them even if your FPS reads above 120....you're only going to get 120FPS. It is just not possible to get more frames than what your monitors refresh rate is. An FPS reading over your monitors refresh rate is a false reading. That said if your FPS reads over your monitors refresh rate you're in good shape.

Some people may argue this all day long. This is the fact. People that argue and think differently are wrong, sorry to say.

While I'm lucky enough to have the capability to run at 120 I still only set my games to run at 60ghz refresh rate...just cuz...I don't see reason to beat down and hammer on my monitor when games run super smooth and beautifully clear at 60FPS/Ghz.

yes and no, if the server runs at a highenough setting then frames that dont get shown may contribute in other details, physics and hit registration even if they really dont show up on screen

[Jack Schitt]

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

Originally posted by |-Oc-| Bort:

Some people may argue this all day long. This is the fact. People that argue and think differently are wrong, sorry to say.

yes and no, if the server runs at a highenough setting then frames that dont get shown may contribute in other details, physics and hit registration even if they really dont show up on screen

Incorrect.
Physics have nothing to do with Hz / FPS. Neither does hit registration more commonly referred to as the hit box.

Study up:
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/the-truth-about-your-fps-its-not-what-you-think/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5761780/frame-rate-resolution-graphics-primer-ps4-xbox-one

You can find more on your preferred search engine. They all say the same thing - what I shared. A monitor is only capable of an FPS equal to it's Refresh Rate. Any reading over that is a false reading.

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by |-Oc-| Bort:

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

yes and no, if the server runs at a highenough setting then frames that dont get shown may contribute in other details, physics and hit registration even if they really dont show up on screen

Incorrect.
Physics have nothing to do with Hz / FPS. Neither does hit registration more commonly referred to as the hit box.

Study up:
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/the-truth-about-your-fps-its-not-what-you-think/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5761780/frame-rate-resolution-graphics-primer-ps4-xbox-one

You can find more on your preferred search engine. They all say the same thing - what I shared. A monitor is only capable of an FPS equal to it's Refresh Rate. Any reading over that is a false reading.

-.- minecraft and source engine arent the same buddy, also i didnt meant the hitbox but the hitscans... and yes source engine can run on: 32 tick (you need 32 fps in this case for proper performance, although 60 gives you better visuals 64 tick (you need 64 fps or else your hitscans are a bit off and you have stuttering (not fps but movement) or 128 tick (in this case the engine runs on 128 "frames" so if you dont want your movement to be off you need 128 fps even though visually there isnt any difference

of course any monitor is only able to display his refresh rate

[Jack Schitt]

Read the articles! They are not game dependant it is all general, factual, information about how displays work. Also read and take heed to my entire reply - use your favorite search engine and look for yourself.

Originally posted by ME:

Some people may argue this all day long. This is the fact. People that argue and think differently are wrong , sorry to say.